Quote:Fortunately, we live in a country founded by laws. Your right to defend yourself ends at another person's right to be free to live.


Nobody is trying to take away your guns. But rights also come with responsibilities. I think most reasonable gun owners can see the need for that.


I just don't understand how adding extra rules as to the ownership of guns would infringe on the right to bear arms.


Aren't felons not allowed to own or carry guns? So has not the precident to regulate gun ownership already been set?

 

You might want to bone up on self defense laws.

 

You keep telling yourself that.  The truth is a far different thing from what you're trying to convince yourself of here, but more power to you.  They are absolutely trying to eradicate guns from this society, and as Malabar Jag pointed out above, they're using the Australia model as their example. 

 

What "extra rules" would have prevented the shooting in Charleston, or almost any of the mass casualty shootings in the recent past?  If you look at where gun violence is particularly out of control, the gun laws on the books are the most restrictive.  Look at Chicago.  Look at Baltimore.  Those are examples of strict gun laws and what you wind up getting.  There are more than enough laws on the books already.  The problem is enforcement and proper tracking capabilities.  The shooter in Charleston shouldn't have been able to walk into a shop and buy that Glock, yet he passed a state AND federal background check despite the fact that it's illegal for anyone even CHARGED with a felony (which he was) from being able to purchase a firearm.  Furthermore, SC state law prohibits ANYONE from carrying a gun into any place of worship.  So, there were laws there, and in both instances, he broke them.  How are new laws going to fix that?

 

Anyone who attempts to purchase a firearm in any state from a dealer, which this shooter did, is put through a state and federal background check, and if they don't pass that, they cannot purchase a firearm.  Furthermore, if you apply to have a carry permit, at least here in FL, you have to go through mandatory training, and you must go through yet another background check at the local and federal level.  Any flags and no permit is issued.  Yes, there's a precedent.  That doesn't mean some new law would have prevented this shooting.

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