Quote:You told him to get out more and if he's been anywhere else. He responded yes. Probably on his own dime. So he may have went on his own accord and not because he was sent there. So I'd guess an unbiased point of view. Just an assumption on my part. Bet he was unarmed as well.

 

Just because he has been to a couple of countries doesn't mean that he has experienced a variety of cultures.  I have.  How I got to travel to so many places is irrelevant.

 

Quote:Just responding to your comment. Did you feel the need for a gun in Europe?

 

At times and in some places, yes, and that doesn't go for just Europe, the same could be said about Africa, The Middle East, South America and some parts of The Caribbean.

 

Quote:You might want to bone up on self defense laws.

 

You keep telling yourself that.  The truth is a far different thing from what you're trying to convince yourself of here, but more power to you.  They are absolutely trying to eradicate guns from this society, and as Malabar Jag pointed out above, they're using the Australia model as their example. 

 

What "extra rules" would have prevented the shooting in Charleston, or almost any of the mass casualty shootings in the recent past?  If you look at where gun violence is particularly out of control, the gun laws on the books are the most restrictive.  Look at Chicago.  Look at Baltimore.  Those are examples of strict gun laws and what you wind up getting.  There are more than enough laws on the books already.  The problem is enforcement and proper tracking capabilities.  The shooter in Charleston shouldn't have been able to walk into a shop and buy that Glock, yet he passed a state AND federal background check despite the fact that it's illegal for anyone even CHARGED with a felony (which he was) from being able to purchase a firearm.  Furthermore, SC state law prohibits ANYONE from carrying a gun into any place of worship.  So, there were laws there, and in both instances, he broke them.  How are new laws going to fix that?

 

Anyone who attempts to purchase a firearm in any state from a dealer, which this shooter did, is put through a state and federal background check, and if they don't pass that, they cannot purchase a firearm.  Furthermore, if you apply to have a carry permit, at least here in FL, you have to go through mandatory training, and you must go through yet another background check at the local and federal level.  Any flags and no permit is issued.  Yes, there's a precedent.  That doesn't mean some new law would have prevented this shooting.

 

I hate to correct you, and I might be wrong on this, but I believe that the perp in this incident was given the gun as a gift from his father (at least that is what I read in initial reports).  I don't believe that he actually purchased the weapon himself.

 

It doesn't change my opinion at all regarding your point, that being that we don't need more laws and those on the far left would like to eventually take guns away from everyone.  The evidence is clear on those points.

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