Quote:You make some fair points but we'll just disagree on the Palin stuff. I think she's absolutely the idiot she made herself out to be. She didn't need SNL to soil any reputation.  She did that by opening her mouth in front of microphones.  (though 70% of middle American voters probably had no clue she even existed before the McCain nod) 

see this is the problem.  Sarah Palin is some big joke...  ok.  

 

Then you have the president of the united states sitting in a room laughing about how "shovel ready wasn't really shovel ready,"  after wasting a trillion dollars, we learn that he and his entire team consciously decieved the entire national during the ACA debates.  We trade five high level detainees for a deserter.  We double the national debt and have interest rates at 0% and we have the worst recovery since the failures of the new deal, we get some smart $^^& answer in the third debate against romney about cutting naval vessels is like graduating from bayonets and muskets only to find out that now because of the shortage that our marines are going to have to hitch rides with foriegn countries, He missed Crimea, surrendered IRAQ to IRAN, crafted the wrost Nuclear treaty in the modern Era, allowed the death of our ambassador to lybia, called ISIS the JV team, wrong on cambrige, sent presidential representatives to the  funeral of a strong arm robber, said that we should really be worried about the Crusades and not the war on terror and thinks that the biggest threat to national security is a flying spaghetti monster...

 

And you think Palin is the idiot?

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