Quote:Wll, the theory goes that those making a higher amount are gaining access to and using more of the resources of the nation/state.  It's a pretty common tax theory.  Whether you believe that or not, it seemed to work out pretty well.  

 

Also, to Eric...  The amount of taxes really doesn't matter, does it?  It's the theory of whether or not to tax.

 

 

Are you trying to purposely leave out the main point of my post?  Taxation with representation.  So I clearly have stated that it's a democratic (or at least on paper it is) process to determine taxation levels and what is and is not taxed.  Something that has been codified in our Constitution.

 

Of course, now a days, taxation loopholes are provided to the upper half.  

 

I have no problem with the legislative process.  Not sure where you got that whole thing from.  To me, it's clear that supply side economics is a joke.  Demand drives the economy, not supply.

 

You may not like a progressive tax, but it keeps the economy going.  

 

Also, the fairness discussion was based on drug testing poor welfare reciepients.

 

In terms of taxes, I think a different discussion occurs.  Obviously nobody likes taxes.  A progressive tax system, may not necessarily be "Fair" to the rich.  A flat tax would not be "fair" to the poor.

 

But the point is that taxes are necessary.  Unless you can prove to me that we can maintain this nation without them.  Let me know if that's possible.  

 

My problem is  not the existence of taxes, there are two things in life that are certain taxes and death. My problem is HOW they are collected and where they are disbursed. The income tax or better called the production tax is completely backwards, to penalize anyone at any level for producing income is to create a disincentive to produce. A better way to tackle the problem is the consumption tax (not to be confused with the flat tax). The flat tax is still a production tax where income is taxed. The consumption tax creates an incentive for consumers to save (which is good for the economy) and taxes the purchases consumer make with their income. If I earn 30,000 or 300,000 I pay taxes on what I purchase. The most popular version of this tax code is the fair tax which is still a progressive tax scale since it has pre-bates redistributed to lower income earners to compensate for their heavy burden on low income. That's fine we can argue that later, to me the first step is changing WHEN we tax revenue.

 

I've yet to see anyone suggest there should be no taxes, most advocate less taxes because of the amount of waste we see. It makes your head spin just thinking about it. 

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