Quote:I disagree.  

They can refuse to bake that specific cake simply by saying they refuse to bake cakes with hateful messages on them.  That's the 'no shirt, no shoes, no service' type of refusal of service.  If the man wants a cake from a gay bakery, and they refuse him then that's discrimination.  They can refuse to make a certain cake, but they can't refuse to make him a cake at all (as long as he requests one that's within their guidelines).


I think discrimination is a horrible practice, and it sets a bad example.  Especially for children.  Now if churches don't want to perform a ceremony for a gay couple -- that's their business because they're actually a religious group.  They can deny jewish people from getting married in their church just as much as they can a gay couple.  


Don't want to attend a gay wedding?  Maybe if you're in the cake business you should hire employees to do it in your place. 

 

So your agree that freedom is there with regard to  the first bolded statement?

 

A bakery can refuse to make a cake with what they deem a "hateful message"?  What if said bakery or owners deemed a cake made in honor of a gay wedding was a "hateful message"?  Who exactly determines what is a "hateful message"?  Perhaps there are some that believe that it's the "right message".

 

To answer a question like that, then we go into personal values and belief.  Should a certain value or belief be forced on the entire population?

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