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Quote:Something caused your impulse: ".I saw the bottle of Pepsi in the little cooler by the checkout..." Plus you saw a commercial plus you were thirsty. Your decision was caused. And that's why you were destined to buy that Pepsi: because one event led to another which led to another.


"I had zero intention of buying that Pepsi until I saw it and then I wanted it..." If you are saying there was no reason for you to want that Pepsi, I don't buy that. There were plenty of reasons (causes). Thirst, advertising, knowledge of how it tastes based on prior experience, etc.


Everything that happens has a cause. Nothing is truly spontaneous. The billiard balls on the billiard table don't move themselves.


Think of it this way: Energy cannot be created or destroyed. That is one of the fundamental tenets of science. So if energy cannot be created or destroyed, that means that the energy it took for you to make a decision and take whatever action you take came from somewhere else. That energy had to be transferred from some other source. That is the proof that everything has a cause and that nothing is truly spontaneous.


So if everything has a cause and nothing is truly spontaneous, and 2 plus 2 always equals 4, then everything is caused, and the exact same set of circumstances will lead to the exact same results every time. Without that, there would be no science. And that is why what you think of as free will is an illusion. You and I are simply experiencing life. We are passengers. We think we have control over our own destiny, but we don't.


Sure that's one theory but there's no way to know that we will always make the same choice. For something to be scientific fact you have to be able to repeat the process and get the same results multiple times. We can only observe time in the present there's no going back and seeing If a different selections is made so you can't use science as proof. I can accept faith as a reason to believe in destiny perhaps you have faith that all decisions a predetermined and we are passengers but that's a religious discussion (even if your a secularist).
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