Quote:My point is that although it didn't prove that concealed carry permits reduce the murder rate, it did prove that THE LEFT WAS WRONG about concealed carry permits causing an increase in the murder rates.


 

You immediately jump to imply hypocrisy when I never stated that concealed carry permits cause a drop in murders? In both cases of correlation I think the proponents should admit that they don't actually know if there is any causation. In both cases, causation (or partial causation) is possible.

I don't know enough to dispute that and I wouldn't think it would be the case either way but I'd wager there is not definitive proof regardless. I don't see why concealed carry would have anything to do with it. Perhaps overall number of guns but concealing legally is no different then concealing illegally. Only it's use. 

 

Fair enough. It seemed based on your posting in other threads that that was the tact you were taking. 

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