Quote:I am sure you were just chomping at the bit on this but please go ahead and show me where I said this. There really is no reason to fabricate things because you don't agree with my patience on the matter. 

 

 

Quote:Understandable and I agree. What I don't agree with is absolutism and a completely unrealistic expectation of total capitulation. That would not happen from any country in the world (outside of total war and a defeat in it ala Germany, if even that these days) let alone Iran. I know that's what the right and even some I know on the left wanted but it's simply not realistic.

 

My main interest is in how the remaining nuclear can be used and if there are mechanisms in place to return sanctions should the renege or hinder inspections or the like as was mentioned when this first became a story. It's not, IMO reasonable to expect for any country to give up all access to nuclear when it's so important for the energy and medical fields.

 

Full disclosure, there was a tad bit of tongue in cheek to my post above but its based solely on this comment.  

 

1.) at what point do we say that its UNREASONABLE to allow a country to remain as the perpetual state sponsor of terror in the world fueling the threat of the next world war?

 

2.) If the purpose of the nuclear program as you say was PEACEFUL then it begs two questions.  a.) If energy is the real concern why wouldn't they build an oil refinery in the country first before they build a nuclear reactor and b.) if they want the privilege of this kind of research for peaceful medical research then why don't they hand over the ICBM's they're building to deliver a nuclear payload.  That seems pretty darn reasonable to me.  

 

Finally, as a further illustration of how LUDICROUS this deal is, i see a lot of people here mentioning that this agreement was fundamentally localized to the nuclear program so it would have been UNREASONABLE to expect IRAN to change any of its other behaviors, and by behavior i mean terrorism and killing Americans.  This is just not true.  In REALITY the IRANIANS got several concessions from us about relieving sanctions and arms embargoes that were levied for human rights violations and for terrorist activities.  To have these sanctions and embargoes lifted without any tangible changes in IRAN's behavior are the final piece of the puzzle and when you step back any rational person should be able to see this deal for what it is, SURRENDER!

---