Let's be clear about JJ Watt

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Let's be clear about JJ Watt

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07-17-2015, 09:40 AM

Quote:Sorry, but the QB wins myth is dead legend.

It's a team sport.

The fatal flaw in the QB wins logic is that, only the QB wins. When the team loses, the team (not the QB) loses. That's the flawed logic in the QB = god mythology.

It's not so "clear" as the sky is blue, when your eyes are closed to the truth that Watt is very much deserving.

He's deserving of recognition, he's not deserving of an MVP award, because it's clear that he doesn't have that level of value. Swap Luck for Watt and the texans would be winning the division. That's why a defensive lineman can't be MVP if there are actual elite QBs in the league at that point in time.

I could see Watt winning MVP if the top 10 or so QBs all had season ending injuries in the first few weeks of a season, but even then it would be a tough sell because it's likely someone would step up at the QB position and have an MVP year anyway.

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Let's be clear about JJ Watt - by Treestone Ice - 12-29-2014, 01:18 PM

Let's be clear about JJ Watt - by DragonFury - 12-29-2014, 01:48 PM

Let's be clear about JJ Watt - by Joe - 12-29-2014, 01:51 PM

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