Quote:Luntz warms up the crowd to his point of view.  He's a propagandist.  He get's them to think and say what he wants them to say.

 

The 3 dudes that I honestly think did the best were Big Ben, Kasich, and (rather far behind the 2) Rand.   

 

Luntz made sure to downplay for the most part and out right ignore the success of Ben and Kasich...  

 

The Huck is unelectable, but makes good ratings for Fox.  Cruz is an establishment candidate that is a Fox regular.  Both those guys are well known by the regular Fox Crowd.  Big Ben and Kasich are, at least relative to The Huck and Cruz, outsiders.  

 

Luntz is perpetuating the status quo.  It's a pathetic ploy that someone that is outside of the bubble (IE a commie liberal like myself  :thumbsup: ) can see.  Those within the bubble are (IE you guys) have a hard time seeing it.

 

I'd be very wary, if I were a Conservative, of anything that Fox News and Frank Luntz -- and by defacto Karl Rove--- try to shove down my throat...  Just trying to help you're side out here...

 

  While I agree with you that Frank Luntz downplayed John Kasich,   I thought he gave Ben Carson his props.   Especially,  on Carson's closing comments.

 

  We strongly disagree regarding Ted Cruz,  as I view him as an anti-establishment candidate.   The establishment Republican ' leadership'  in DC is against Cruz because he doesn't follow them like sheep.   

 

  There's no question that Karl Rove is a poster boy for the establishment.   

 

 

  As for who did the best in the debate,   it's very subjective.    Because I like the vast majority of the messages that Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee conveyed in the debate and thought they came across real well,   I rate them as the best performers in the debate.    Having said that,   while I have major differences with John Kasich,   I thought he did a very good job based on expressing his positions.    Kasich was prepared.   He was confident,  not cocky.    Before this debate,  I didn't think Kasich would be a significant factor in the Republican race.   Now,  I think he's someone who at least in the coming weeks will see a noticeable increase in support.   Maybe even more.  

 

  As for who did the worst,  no question it was Donald Trump.    I think Trump is a phony who craves attention.  

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