Quote:Medicare (not Medicaid) is not socialized medicine, it's health insurance pre-paid by the beneficiaries. Medicaid is health insurance welfare, also not socialized medicine.

The US isn't Canada. That's why I used the VA, which is the US socialized medical system. What supposedly has worked so far in Canada (I know of a person who was screwed over by Canadian health care, so at best it's not 100%) clearly didn't work in the US.

I've got direct family that's been screwed by Canada's medical system had an uncle almost die waiting for approval for a life saving surgery. Had an aunt that ended up getting a necessary operation here because the wait was over a year in Canada for approval. I known for a long time some of our family wouldn't even bother trying to see a doctor for minor colds you'd either be over it or hospitalized by the time they see you.

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