Quote:In 1994 the smartest financial minds in the entire world created a series of debt instruments based on the fundamental concept that since the supply of land was constant that the price of real estate could never go down.  13 years later the Capitalist system as we know it hung by a thread.  

 

Stephen Hawking just had a theory proven false.  

 

Expert opinions are great, they are not however infallible.  For the purpose of conversation its more helpful to express the opinion held by those experts and then examine their merits so that we can all come to a better understanding of the issues and then formulate opinions on our own.  So when someone says that there was a letter signed by this person or that i am happy to read the merits and consider them for myself, that's being open minded.  But if you expect me to rent out my mind to someone just for a series of letters behind their name then I'm sorry to disappoint you.  

 

If that's the common practice of anyone on this board then i am not throwing stones.  I would just like to let you know that i have several members of my family that have achieved high levels of accomplishment in real estate sale and mortgages and we are open for business baby!

 

Aristotle, the worlds greatest mind thought we lived in a universe where the Earth was in the center.  What is your point?  

 

Don't bring that non-sense to an actual debate about facts.

 

While I respect your intelligence, a couple pages ago, you dismissed something I said because you felt it was a talking point...  What I just quoted above is rhetoric and talking points to the finest.  If you have nothing more to say, just admit it.  

 

You obviously disagree with the deal, but don't try and poo-poo actual arguements based on fact with rhetoric.  It's beneath you.

 

Seriously, I get it.  You disagree.  But be fair and honest about it.  If you want facts, bring them.

 

If you want to have a debate based on rhetoric, then don't be hypocritical about it.

 

By the way, I think this whole thing boils down to 2 options.

 

1.  An unjust war now, or 2. A war that has justification later...

 

I think, if you believe America are the good guys, you choose option 2.  

 

If you don't believe in true justice, then option 1 is your best bet.

 

It really comes down to that, in my mind.

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