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RGIII

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Dude, you just don't know what your talking about. For one, Griffin is 6'2" 223. The only way he's undersized is if Aaron Rodgers, who stand 6'2" 225, is as well.

 

Griffin was highly-rated by just about everyone coming out of college for the same reasons Michael Vick was. In retrospect, that should have been a huge red flag (and to lots of casual fans, it was), but you were hard-pressed to find a scout or draftnik that didn't like him. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Nolan Nawrocki, but he's pretty much a Grand Wizard when it comes to evaluating highly-rated black quarterbacks. There weren't any obvious, huge red flags surrounding Griffin at the time beyond the lack of pro-style experience, but that's been overcome before by QBs with the physical and mental tools that he had coming out.

 

I'm not defending RG3 as a great quarterback, because clearly he's not, but the man wasn't overdrafted or overhyped. Everyone with a voice agreed going into the 2013 draft that it was Luck, then Griffin, then everyone else. Honestly, if Griffin hadn't been neutered by the Shanahans and ruined by injuries, I think he'd have wound up a much better player, and I'm still not convinced that his career couldn't be more than saved by a move to Chip Kelly's offense.

 

You sound like so many people here do regarding Gabbert. Go back to 2010 and look at how many people on this board were going nuts over getting Gabbert, and how he was going to be so much better than Cam Newton. Then look at the board around the time he was traded and see how many of those same people were saying that they "always knew he'd be a bust". It's easy to be right three years after the fact, ya know?
I do think  6'2 223 is undersized if you are going to be a running qb.  Brunell, Steve Young these guys were similiar builds and ran often then had their careers hurt from that size and constant desire to run.  Steve Mcnair was slightly bigger and still was constantly hurt from running.  The difference between Aaron Rodgers is that he does not need to run to give defenses problems.


That class was Luck, then Griffen, then everyone else I am saying the analysts and scouts who said luck was 1a and Rg3 was 1b were dead wrong and that makes him overhyped.  


Calling a prospect who lacks the measureables of Luck, the experience in a prosystem, with a prior acl injury equal to the best prospect since Manning or Elway is overhyping a guy.  


I think he would be better in a Chip Kelly system but I also think its only a matter of time before his running ability is going to put him in a situation where severe injury is a certainty.


You are right though, I did try very hard to like Gabbert.  Thank god Bortles makes it easy.  Atleast Cam has the size to play the way he does although i'm still not sold on him.

Go Jags!
*To stay up for atleast 2 years 3/6/17
2016 draft players I think will be good
  • On the Fournette train, will be best back of his class 3/6/17
  • Lattimore please,  Lockdowns on both sides would be nice
  • Engram at TE and the MJD clone Samaje Perine
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RGIII - by realtorpat - 08-20-2015, 09:58 PM
RGIII - by imtheblkranger - 08-20-2015, 10:13 PM
RGIII - by realtorpat - 08-20-2015, 10:21 PM
RGIII - by jaxjags625 - 08-20-2015, 10:21 PM
RGIII - by knarnn - 08-20-2015, 10:24 PM
RGIII - by jaxjags625 - 08-20-2015, 10:33 PM
RGIII - by Haterade - 08-20-2015, 11:06 PM
RGIII - by Haterade - 08-20-2015, 11:08 PM
RGIII - by realtorpat - 08-20-2015, 11:11 PM
RGIII - by Haterade - 08-20-2015, 11:16 PM
RGIII - by jaxjags625 - 08-20-2015, 11:18 PM
RGIII - by realtorpat - 08-20-2015, 11:20 PM
RGIII - by Jay Carter 904 - 08-21-2015, 08:03 AM
RGIII - by Shack Del Rio - 08-21-2015, 08:32 AM
RGIII - by SamusAranX - 08-21-2015, 10:43 AM
RGIII - by pirkster - 08-21-2015, 10:50 AM
RGIII - by Jay Carter 904 - 08-21-2015, 10:50 AM
RGIII - by UCF Knight - 08-21-2015, 11:42 AM
RGIII - by HiggyJ15 - 08-21-2015, 12:48 PM
RGIII - by HURRICANE!!! - 08-21-2015, 01:03 PM
RGIII - by scoobydiesel - 08-21-2015, 01:44 PM
RGIII - by Shack Del Rio - 08-21-2015, 03:02 PM
RGIII - by realtorpat - 08-21-2015, 05:03 PM
RGIII - by Sosa - 08-21-2015, 05:09 PM
RGIII - by realtorpat - 08-21-2015, 05:11 PM
RGIII - by jagshype - 08-21-2015, 05:29 PM
RGIII - by NCJag - 08-21-2015, 07:09 PM
RGIII - by Jags239 - 08-21-2015, 09:39 PM
RGIII - by rufftime - 08-22-2015, 05:37 AM
RGIII - by pirkster - 08-22-2015, 10:24 AM
RGIII - by pirkster - 08-22-2015, 10:27 AM
RGIII - by realtorpat - 08-22-2015, 10:39 AM
RGIII - by realtorpat - 08-22-2015, 10:57 AM
RGIII - by TJBender - 08-22-2015, 05:11 PM
RGIII - by realtorpat - 08-22-2015, 07:57 PM
RGIII - by pirkster - 08-23-2015, 03:06 PM
RGIII - by realtorpat - 08-23-2015, 05:28 PM
RGIII - by jaxjags625 - 08-24-2015, 09:45 AM
RGIII - by badger - 08-24-2015, 10:23 AM
RGIII - by Jay Carter 904 - 08-27-2015, 09:37 AM
RGIII - by RicoTx - 08-27-2015, 10:45 AM
RGIII - by Bon Jagley - 08-27-2015, 12:42 PM
RGIII - by JaG4LyFe - 08-27-2015, 12:42 PM
RGIII - by TJBender - 08-27-2015, 12:52 PM
RGIII - by Jay Carter 904 - 08-28-2015, 08:00 AM
RGIII - by Haterade - 08-28-2015, 06:02 PM
RGIII - by BortlestheMan - 08-28-2015, 11:16 PM
RGIII - by JaguarScience95 - 08-29-2015, 08:03 AM
RGIII - by Haterade - 08-29-2015, 11:59 AM
RGIII - by Bon Jagley - 08-29-2015, 01:30 PM
RGIII - by pirkster - 08-29-2015, 03:40 PM
RGIII - by realtorpat - 08-29-2015, 04:18 PM
RGIII - by TJBender - 08-29-2015, 05:39 PM
RGIII - by rollerjag - 08-29-2015, 06:01 PM
RGIII - by TJBender - 08-29-2015, 06:31 PM
RGIII - by realtorpat - 08-29-2015, 07:39 PM
RGIII - by NCJag - 08-29-2015, 08:31 PM
RGIII - by AnyGivenSunday - 08-29-2015, 09:59 PM
RGIII - by TJBender - 08-30-2015, 02:01 AM
RGIII - by Bon Jagley - 08-30-2015, 09:51 AM
RGIII - by Joe - 08-30-2015, 10:51 AM
RGIII - by Bon Jagley - 08-30-2015, 10:57 AM
RGIII - by Joe - 08-30-2015, 12:19 PM
RGIII - by B2hibry - 08-30-2015, 12:36 PM
RGIII - by Joe - 08-30-2015, 12:40 PM
RGIII - by TJBender - 08-30-2015, 03:00 PM
RGIII - by Joe - 08-30-2015, 03:21 PM
RGIII - by pirkster - 08-30-2015, 07:23 PM
RGIII - by D6 - 08-30-2015, 07:34 PM
RGIII - by Haterade - 08-30-2015, 07:59 PM
RGIII - by C'MON JAGS - 08-31-2015, 06:18 AM
RGIII - by Shack Del Rio - 08-31-2015, 12:30 PM
RGIII - by HIGH SCORE - 08-31-2015, 12:50 PM
RGIII - by Flagler Jagsfan - 08-31-2015, 01:16 PM
RGIII - by jvillejagsn1 - 08-31-2015, 02:19 PM
RGIII - by pirkster - 08-31-2015, 02:54 PM
RGIII - by Tuxedo - 08-31-2015, 03:04 PM
RGIII - by D6 - 08-31-2015, 04:09 PM
RGIII - by Bullseye - 08-31-2015, 04:25 PM
RGIII - by Bullseye - 08-31-2015, 04:28 PM
RGIII - by TJBender - 08-31-2015, 04:30 PM
RGIII - by D6 - 08-31-2015, 04:52 PM
RGIII - by Jay Carter 904 - 09-01-2015, 07:26 AM
RGIII - by pirkster - 09-01-2015, 11:49 AM
RGIII - by NCJag - 09-01-2015, 12:24 PM



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