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PFF Grades for Jags/Giants

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Quote:No they don't always. I said as much with the comparison of Kobe Bryant. Yes, the great QBs CAN make that play once in awhile (more often than not, if they are really great). It doesn't take away that he had a WIDE OPEN receiver that he missed.

 

it's one of those "OH NO OH NO OH YES!" plays. It's no different than the criticism that Vick (and even Tebow to an extent) when they break the pocket and run because they can. You hold your breath because they can scramble, but if you review the tape and you see a guy wide open, you still tell them "Hey great play, but you missed this guy wide open here".

 

And as you said "a good WR would have caught the ball"

 

Therein lies the problem. To make that play happen, you need a great QB to make a great throw. You need the defense to not make a great play on it. You need the receiver to make a great play on it.

 

Or you know, you can just dump it off to that wide open guy and get the same type of yardage if not more....

 

Much higher percentage of success, so why force the difficult but spectacular throw?
Is it possible that he saw the open receiver and decided to to throw deep because he wanted to develop some kind of chemistry and confidence with Hurns? I think PFF is a solid tool but the issue I have is that they use what they think should have happened. There is no indicator that he did not see the guy and decided to make  a different throw. He may have said "Hey it is preseason, let me get some deep throw reps in with Hurnsy." Manning sure didn't have a problem slinging the ball all over the place to ODB (lol). 

 

I think this has to do with the idea that Bortles is a guy who "play like Favre." Gonna make good throws and then make bonehead plays. The thing is though I haven't seen that from him so far. I have seen a guy who is confident in what he is seeing, knows what he is seeing and taking calculated risks. Why not take that shot? All three defenders were behind Hurns.

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PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by raweyejag - 08-25-2015, 01:06 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by pirkster - 08-25-2015, 01:09 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by scoobydiesel - 08-25-2015, 01:51 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by HolsterHusto - 08-25-2015, 01:55 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by Senor Fantastico - 08-25-2015, 01:56 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by VisitingCobra - 08-25-2015, 01:58 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by imtheblkranger - 08-25-2015, 01:58 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by raweyejag - 08-25-2015, 02:07 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by Monty - 08-25-2015, 02:12 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by SpeedyG - 08-25-2015, 02:25 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by imtheblkranger - 08-25-2015, 02:27 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by SpeedyG - 08-25-2015, 02:36 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by RicoTx - 08-25-2015, 02:49 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by Monty - 08-25-2015, 03:01 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by Vino - 08-25-2015, 03:01 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by raweyejag - 08-25-2015, 03:10 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by Senor Fantastico - 08-25-2015, 03:10 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by raweyejag - 08-25-2015, 03:14 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by HIGH SCORE - 08-25-2015, 03:15 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by RicoTx - 08-25-2015, 03:17 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by Bon Jagley - 08-25-2015, 03:18 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by Jags02 - 08-25-2015, 03:30 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by raweyejag - 08-25-2015, 03:55 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by Jags02 - 08-26-2015, 01:59 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by UConnUCFjags - 08-26-2015, 02:07 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by knarnn - 08-26-2015, 02:17 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by SpeedyG - 08-26-2015, 02:17 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by SpeedyG - 08-26-2015, 02:21 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by RicoTx - 08-26-2015, 02:23 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by knarnn - 08-26-2015, 02:24 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by HURRICANE!!! - 08-26-2015, 02:29 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by Etdavis2006 - 08-26-2015, 02:32 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by Deacon - 08-26-2015, 02:53 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by Shack Del Rio - 08-26-2015, 02:55 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by jagforlife85 - 08-26-2015, 03:04 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by Senor Fantastico - 08-26-2015, 03:15 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by UConnUCFjags - 08-26-2015, 03:30 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by SpeedyG - 08-26-2015, 05:37 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by BritJag - 08-26-2015, 05:50 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by Senor Fantastico - 08-26-2015, 05:52 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by pirkster - 08-26-2015, 06:23 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by jaguarmvp - 08-26-2015, 06:40 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by BritJag - 08-26-2015, 06:40 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by BritJag - 08-26-2015, 06:42 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by Senor Fantastico - 08-26-2015, 09:01 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by DewtheMathis - 08-26-2015, 10:43 PM
PFF Grades for Jags/Giants - by Jags02 - 08-27-2015, 05:07 AM



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