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The Great, Big Joeckel Thread (merged threads)


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Quote:Nobody is accusing Caldwell of being perfect, but the fact that he got value for a player who was in the final year of his contract and was going to hit free agency and provide no value to the team made that a smart move.  Especially when you take into consideration the fact that they had drafted the guy who was expected to step in as his replacement.  The consensus on the board at the time was apprehension over the move because of the timing and the lack of experience Monroe was being replaced with, but it wasn't as broadly panned as some here would like to imply until AFTER Joeckel got hurt.  Then it was suddenly a terrible deal that never should have happened. 
 

Well to be fair a lot of people didn't have time to post between the time Monroe was traded and the time Joeckel got hurt. Smile


 

I disagreed with the decision to trade him. Even earlier I thought we should have traded the pick rather than drafting Joeckel because we had Monroe. And before you go on a rant about how hard it is to trade a pick, there have been plenty of trades of 1st round picks, including THE VERY NEXT PICK. The Jags might have offered pick #2 for what the Dolphins gave up for pick #3. With the new rookie pay scale the $$$ savings of pick #3 over pick #2 is negligible, and the Dolphins should have been concerned that the Jags would take their guy instead of Joeckel.


Monroe reportedly desired a new contract with the Jags even after Joeckel was drafted. Even if he later changed his mind money talks, and most players would rather stay with the same team. Staying means he wouldn't have to sell his house and move, and he'd get to stay in a town with great beaches, golf and fishing, and no state income tax. Given the same money he'd get elsewhere, I doubt he'd prefer leaving. 



 

Quote:That line as a whole struggled last year because they had no coaching to speak of with Yarno taking leave to deal with his cancer, and his assistant line coach pretty much having no clue how to develop the crew.  I think that was as big a contributor to their struggles as anything, and we're seeing how things can improve with a good coach at the helm to develop the talent.  We'll see how things progress this year now that Marrone is in charge.
 

My teal colored glasses agree with this. And Parnell appears to be a big upgrade.


 

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Cyprien and Lee have been hurt.  Is that the GMs fault? 

 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with criticism if it's properly directed.  Caldwell has made some mistakes, but there have been moves made that remain a question mark for a variety of reasons that are beyond the control of any GM.  To blame him for injuries seems a bit misguided.  Things can happen in the league that are out of his hands once the guys are on the field.
 

Cyprien has been mediocre when healthy. Lee may be another story.





                                                                          

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