Quote:All the left has left are straw man arguments.  

 

This deal or war.  That's rhetorical nonsense.  That would be like an 8th grader getting every question wrong on his math homework and telling his teacher "would you rather i just didn't do it at all?"  These were supposed to be the smartest people the world had ever seen and we got this mess?  ridiculous.  

 

We weren't the only people at the table.  True, but we are the one's that bought the table.  Our umbrella of protection and funding has allowed the proliferation of Europe as we know it.  There is no question that we are the worlds superpower and when things go wrong you don't see Germany and France declaring blood and treasure for the proliferation of freedom.  The idea that America doesn't have the influence not to get absolutely trounced the way that we did is so asinine it doesn't merit discussion.  When you look at Cuba Berghdal etc. etc. you can see that this policy of capitulation engagement is what Obama wants.  It's disingenuous to say otherwise.  

 

31 pages and 150 billion dollars and i have still not seen one tangible verifiable thing that we got in these negotiations aside from a bunch of hot air from a state that's a proven liar.  So much for the party of science.  

 

As for the experts, Shovel ready jobs, 2500 less on your premiums, if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor....  do i really have to keep going.  I can't believe that people are still carrying water for this guy.  

 

And just as an aside we are talking about roughly 150 billion dollars in frozen or heavily restricted Iranian assets frozen in the international banking system that is by and large underwritten by the US dollar.

Oh you mean rhetoric like we are giving them a bomb. We are giving them a path to the bomb. We are giving them 150 billion. Rhetorical nonsense like that? Is that what you meant? 

 

You mad, everyone gets it. Still waiting for that alternative that actually works with the multi party deal. Really anything other than being full of rage and fear and pounding the table about america's dominance over the world. 

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