Quote:Bortles is a different qb this year. As a rookie he was prone to throw INTs early, and then later in the season his arm gave way to fatigue. This offseason he put in countless hours improving his arm and his mechanics. So quite frankly I don't even want to hear about his stats last year. At least in my mind, he has a clean slate to start this season to see where he's at.

 

Ok sure ignore the disastrous start to his career, but at what point does the body of work for a player become indicative of his overall ability and trajectory? Luck has had a rough start to the new season, does that mean its fair to write off everything he has done before that? What about when Brady/Manning struggled last year? It seems you have to include a player's overall body of work to get an accurate depiction of their abilities, and one mediocre game doesn't change Bortles' overall outlook in my opinion. Recall the original point was that Mariota's first two games of his career were as good or better than Bortles' two best games, and I'm still willing to defend that point. What do you think were the two best games of his career?

 

Quote:It's clear you're just looking at stats and don't actually watch him week to week so why are you trying to argue with people who do? You're not going to win.

 

This is obviously false, because I do in fact watch the games on a week to week basis. But humor me and explain your reasoning and how you drew this inference. 

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