Quote:Is the Jaguars supporting cast really that much better? Bortles only has two legitimate targets in ARob and Hurns out there, and yet over the past three weeks he's maintained a 7.0 YPA and has thrown 5 TDs with only 1 INT. He's also showing to be among the qbs currently excelling when under pressure or being blitzed, when using play action, and when throwing deep. Really the only area where Bortles has been slacking is his completion percentage, and that's what this thread is particularly addressing.

 

Before the season I'd bet you every person on this board would have said that the Jags offensive weapons would be better than the Titans. That's the type of effect good QBs have on their teams, they enable players to become play-makers

 

Quote:Have some time this morning to look at numbers of current top quarterbacks

Brees took 4 years to become a top qb (he did complete 60.8% in year 2, but had a 17/16 ratio)


Kaepernick has regressed bad after a hot start, as well as the above mentioned RG3


Rivers for the most part sat 2 years, same for Brady,and Rodgers


Flacco has remained fairly steady, good but not dominant


Ben R. Has been really good since he debuted


The closest I found to Bortles current path is Matt Ryan, and if Baconator has problems with that career path than he truly is just a troll looking for attention.

 

What correlation do you see between Matt Ryan and Bortles? I'm not sure I understand the point you're trying to make? Do you think they were similar prospects or something? Play style? Or do you mean to say that you think his ceiling will be Matt Ryan? You're just listing names and I'm not sure what inference you expect me to draw  here. Could you state the point more clearly please.

 

edit: So I'm trying to piece together what you're reasoning and I'm looking at their stats.  Ryan was significantly better in every area.

 

Ryan: 265/434 3,444 yards 61% 7.9 YPA QB rating 87.7 6 fumbles (1 lost)

 

Bortles: 280/475 2,908 yards 58% 6.1 YPA QB rating 69.5 (worst in the league) 7 fumbles (1 lost)

 

I think you're underestimating how truly awful Bortles rookie season was. Especially in comparison to the other young QBs of this generation. I think its a long shot to say that their trajectory will be comparable, especially considering that Ryan displayed much better awareness and pocket presence in his rookie year. I see his ceiling in the Tannehil range, maybe a little better than him if all goes well.

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