Quote:JJ Watt is a dominant defender, one of the best in the game right now, and even his skills are not enough to lift what is clearly a mediocre team. Are you disagreeing with that, or...?

 

 

Meanwhile, in Green Bay, their top QB, one of the best in the game right now, goes down, and they cannot hide other flaws on the team as well as they had been. As to your mention of injury, Rodgers won two games without Cobb,  it looks like James Jones returned the week Rodgers went down and has been available to the back-ups, Finley, yep, and if you're referring to Clay Matthews, he's also returned as of Week 10, the game after Rodgers was hurt. So, Tolzien is missing Cobb and Finley.

 

If anything, this kind of highlights my point.

 

Insert a QB like Seneca or Tolzien (though I like Tolzien), and you've got a team that looks so-so. Insert Aaron Rodgers, and you have a team that at least resembles a contender.

hes been dominant of course but it seems the rest of the defense regressed as with the offense compared to last year. 

 

arod is elite but dont froget flynn had success when he started for him, compared to the reps seneca and tolzien as a packer i can see why they struggled. also look at new orleans with and without payton, and brees is an elite qb.

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