Quote:Yeah I agree that some posters get to the point where they just want to attack you because they dont like you for what you post. Thats dumb for sure. However, for me its just something that irks me when theres a poster like you or rocdee that literally will never post anything about the team that isnt negative. I could be wrong about you to some degree because you at least try to add some thought, but rocdee is literally the most annoying person that just cries on every thread. As for the stat projections, I think thats just what people do to compare players. Bortles is currently on pace to be a top 5-7 QB in stats this year, and is playing a lot better than last year which gives the fans a lot of hope. I believe that while he probably wont end up with those stat projections, he is definitely playing a lot better. Theres still mistakes but if you throw the ball 50 times a game and have no running game its going to happen. He needs to lower the mistakes but he's on the right path.

 

What's funny is that I never said he wasn't improving or getting better. The disagreement lies within what we all take his ceiling to be. In my opinion he hasn't shown to capable of being more than an average to slightly above average QB relative to the rest of the young players in the league and when contextualizing the stats in comparison to all time greats. I've cited my data and have done my best to clearly lay out my reasoning and how my examples support my position. Most just assume he is a lock to be a top 5 QB in the league but aren't willing to either point out the flaws in my reasoning, or clarify their own.

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