Quote:No matter how the thread starts it goes directly into firing somebody, or who's to blame style finger pointing. The same thing happened with Del Rio, Coughlin, and poor ole' one season Mike. Even with Del Rio succeeding in Oakland fans here still trash him. Let the hate go! Just remember the Pats got Bill because the Browns sent him out of town on a rail and the Jets treated him like garbage. Both of those teams are filled with negative vibes and that's why they are always crap even if they're good. The Pats were also 5-11 in 2000 with a former #1 pick QB a solid pass rush and a decent secondary, started 2001 0-2 and then blew up and won the Super Bowl. We have to change our mindset a little, or maybe a lot. Firing everyone in middle of something is never the answer.

 

Okay, Bill Belichick started off with six wins as the Browns HC, and finished with .450% (close to 50/50) where as Gus is in his third year at .225% (20/80) not really the same...

in 2000 (his first year he went 5-11 sure but in his 2nd year he went 11-5, why because you cant find a QB tree & simply pluck one - ask Belichicks teacher Bill Parcells a thing he once said about finding QBs)...

Would Bill that great without Tom Brady -- probably not, but Bill is a Defensive minded HC people forget that because of Tom Brady's success...

without Tom he would probably run all the time....  as his teacher BIll Parcels never had that great of a QB...

but as a defensive minded HC he's teams D was always pretty good .. sure some years not the best but you can expect a tough defensive stragety against Bill... Parcells & Belichick..

 

many jaguar fans thought they might get that with Gus.. and after three years it hasnt shown... that is what is the most frustrating with Gus its not the 3 or 4 wins every year for 3 years.. its that the Defense stinks against the pass...

 

3 years and every year the Jaguars are last in INTs (and in fact the ones they do get usually are from the LBs!)

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