Quote:Good question & easy answer. Wins and losses my friend ........wins and losses. Thee very same thing the great ones are judged on. The Brady's, Manning's (both of them) The Rodgers, The Aikmans, The Montana's, on and on. That's the yardstick at the end of the day. Dan Marino was one of the all time greats. Do you think for a moment he would have given up any of that for a title or two? I do.

 

Admittedly, way too early to wonder or not if he will reach these pinnacles. But, at what point do you say.............really good QB but he just isn't going to take us to the big party. The great teams "expect" to be in the hunt for that invitation every year. I watched the locker room after the ravens win. There's a big difference between being happy with a win and celebrating something remarkable. These guys were running around like they just made it to the playoffs. I'm all for positive attitudes, but come on guys..............it's almost as if the JAGS are surprised they win a game. It was Baltimore for crying out loud. Like I said in another thread. The reality here was that a 2-6 team simply beat another 2-6 team. What's the big deal about that? I guarantee you the Patriots didn't celebrate like the Jags did with their last second win against the Giants. The really great ones "EXPECT" to win.