Quote:One more thing..congress just denied a bill that would make it far more difficult, possibly deny a person on the FBI terror watch list to purchase a weapon. Why deny that? Hell, if you cant fly, you cant buy! Their rights are already taken by taking away freedom of travel, so saying its their right is hypocritical. Saying theyd get one illegally anyway is another cop out and weak answer

Just my two cents

Have you ever seen how the no-fly list works? You're added to it silently, and you're not told why. Getting yourself off of it is an ordeal unto itself in arguing with a government bureaucracy that has no real interest in making things right with you. The best you can hope for is a Known Traveler Number (KTN) that tells airlines you're ok to fly--but you're not taken off the list.

 

I am not in favor of anything that completely deprives a person of their Second Amendment rights (or any right, for that matter) without due process being involved. If the federal government were to tell you that you were being added to a watch list, tell you exactly why you were being added, tell you how you can exercise an appeal at no cost to you through the legal system with representation from an attorney of your choice and keep you off of any and all watch lists until a court had issued a ruling indicating that the government has probable cause to add you to a terrorism watch list, then I'd be ok with denying the right to own guns.

 

But they'd never do that, would they? That would defeat the purpose of a secret watchlist--and the purpose of a secret watchlist is not to protect us by making sure the terrorists don't know they're being watched. It's to justify watching anyone and everyone, and restricting our activities accordingly.

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