Quote:That makes no sense. Trump wants to ban Muslims from entering the country. Are you going on the honor system?

 

no.  That's the point.  Right now we are basically going with NO system.  The female attacker had demonstrative ties to radical ideology and now we believe that both she and Syed were openly talking about Martyrdom before the attack in California.  We should have a system in place by which anyone who has made reference to killing themselves in an attack on America is barred from entering the country.  

 

As for the honor system, that is based on the false assumption that we are advocating a purely reactive and rudimentary vetting process.  We're not talking about a thirty second interview in a broom closet where someone just asks "Are you Islamic yes or no."  Thats about what you have now.  

 

What the Trumpians are saying is that we should have a system by which a person outside this country should have to affirmatively prove who they are, what their background is and the host country should have to certify that to the best of their knowledge in cooperation with our own intelligence services that a person has not had any contact with terrorists or suspected terrorists.  

 

In the case mentioned where there is doubt about someone's background or affiliations then they shouldn't be approved for entry.  In other words we should know who the hell someone is before they are allowed in this country i don't understand how hard that is to understand.  

 

Quote:I have made this point before, but it bears repeating.   What is missing from this debate is some sense of proportion.   Of course we should be fighting ISIS.  Of course we should stand up against Islamic Extremism.   But if you look at the problem of Islamic extremists carrying out attacks in this country, our fear of terrorists is way out of proportion to the actual threat.

 

Your odds of being killed in a mass shooting or bombing are miniscule.   And even if you are killed in a bombing or shooting, the odds of it being the result of a terrorist attack is also miniscule. 

 

You have far greater odds of being killed by a crazy person than being killed by a Muslim fundamentalist.  It seems like some crazy person goes off every day and starts shooting people.   But no one is advocating rounding up all the crazy people and locking them up.  So why all the hysterical fear of Muslims?   It's because this whole terrorist narrative is great for TV ratings, and it's really great for Presidential candidates because it allows them to build up this big bogeyman, "them" out there, and "us" in here. 

 

Frankly that's childish and you should be ashamed of yourself.  The most powerful, well funded, far reaching terrorist organization in the world has grown exponentially over the last 8 years.  They are threatening and have achieved mass casualties on American soil with the promise to do more.  To ignore that threat would be insane.  We aren't talking about a theoretical probability in some far off land.  We are talking about the escalation of attacks away from the heartland of Iraq and Syria by a group that defies any sense of Mercy Morality or the desire to participate in the civilized world.  They have demonstrated a diabolical commitment to the destruction of the infidels and if we do not meet that aggression in kind with our own commitment to our safety then we might as well just recognize them as the new global head, adopt shariah law and pay them the tax for being non believers.  

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