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Trump - "total shutdown of Muslims entering the United States"


Quote:I'm pretty sure almost everyone would agree with that.  What I don't agree with is Trump's idea of banning Muslims from entering the country.   In my opinion, and in the opinion of most people, that would be a very bad idea, because it would play into the hands of ISIS by telling 1.6 billion people from all over the world that they are not welcome here.   ISIS has been trying to spread the idea that the United States is killing Muslims in the Middle East because we hate Muslims.  If we ban Muslims, we play right into that.  We cannot win the war on terror or defeat ISIS without allies in the Muslim world, and they will be very hard to recruit to our side if we have a ban on Muslims entering the US.   If we ban Muslims from entering the country, then in the eyes of the world we're just a bunch of hypocrites who like to claim we have religious freedom, but in actuality, practice religious discrimination.  That's why this whole idea is incredibly short sighted and stupid.  
 

"I am in favor of banning all Muslims from entering the United States until our representatives figure out what the _____ Is going on"  his major emphasis wasn't on a long term full scale ban of Muslims, it was on figuring out what the _______ Is going on.  We have to have a system of affirmative verification for everyone that comes into this country.  the current system of open borders and online applications is STUPID!  

 

This idea that there is any rational provocation for terrorism is just plain silly.  1.6 billion people are told from birth that there is glory in bringing Jihad to the Infadel.  That has nothing to do with Trump, Gingrich, Bush anyone.  That's the Quran.  If you discount that as the foundation for terrorism then that would be like a Mechanic changing you tires when your engine is blown.  

 

In Turkey during a soccer game they promoted a moment of silence for the victims of the terror attack.  That moment of silence was interrupted by chants of Alluh akbar.  In paris they had rallies for Muslims against terrorism, i think 30 people showed up.  In countries like saudi Arabia its still a crime for women to drive, still a crime to openly display paraphernalia from other faiths, its still a crime to openly proselytize against Islam, they still execute people based on a fundamental interpretation of Islam.  We can't sit back twiddle our thumbs and wait for people who enable the radical belief system to do our work for us.  

 

There are reform movements within the faith that are trying to omit shariah law and the call to offensive Jihad.  Those are the best hope that we have to alleviate the problem without direct conflict, but they only have a chance if the Muslim world openly condemns the part of fundamental Islam that advocate violence against the "House of War."  Those TRUE moderates point out that when you enable the belief system of so called moderates that still contains at its core a call to Jihad that you are in fact proliferating the call to Terror.  

 

 

 

Quote:You're answering my criticism of Trump with criticism of Democrats. That's a red herring.

 

After researching crime statistics in Texas, about the only thing I can find backing up your claim is that an alien committing a crime is indeed a criminal alien. Otherwise, I'd have to know your time frame and source.

 

Trump panders to fears with simplistic solutions to complicated problems, and he tells us we'll have to trust him on the details. Along the way he insults and mocks, while justifying demagoguery and xenophobia as just being non-politically correct. If that suits you and that's what you want from your President, fine. I think he is a self-serving narcissistic egomaniac who I want as far away from the Oval Office as possible.
 

Yes, When someone here in this country illegally commits a crime they are by definition a criminal Illegal alien.   The fundamental purpose of assembling government is to protect the citizens from all enemies foreign and domestic.  We have a responsibility to protect the lives and property of those in border states and no matter what you say the current system isn't doing it and the proliferation of that system in the face of the real impact to the citizens of this country is to reject the main tenant of governance for some diseased blanket of moral relativism and INCLUSION.

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Trump - "total shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" - by jj82284 - 12-31-2015, 04:15 PM



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