Quote:You said specifically that a proposal in immigration policy would be used by terrorists as a recruiting tool in Muslim Culture.  

 

I then point out that in reality Muslim Culture itself is openly, and un-repentantly hostile to western culture and criminalizes judeo-christian expression in their countries.  

 

I never intimated that someone was proposing we emulate Muslim Culture.  I am simply pointing out the absurdity that Someone saying that we should have a temporary ban on one religion strictly for the purposes of intelligence gathering should be offensive to a group of people that OUTLAW religions as a part of their daily lives.  

 

We have been told that we have to be so conscious of our TONE and our WORDS while the leader of a Muslim nation we call our ally leads his citizens in chants of DEATH TO AMERICA and DEATH TO ISRAEL.  The ideological masochism of the left is becoming plainly rediculus.  

 

In the case of Tashfeen Malik, you have a process streamlined in 2009 where you download all the documents you need online, compile said documents, send them in, go through a cupcake interview and abra ka dabra your in the country.  

 

They plainly missed, that she was someone who expressed radical views in her own country.  It shouldn't have been hard because there were only 4 Saudi born applicants that year.  We also missed the electronic communications that she had with her would be fiance.  In a system that is inherently susceptible to fraud all communications should be available for review just to prove the veracity of a relationship, let alone having suspected terror ties.  

 

In the case of Syed Farook, he was in the social circle of a cleric who was arrested in 2012 and recently sentenced to 25 years for Joining Al Queda.  We now know that this was indeed his point of radicalization and he aborted his own planned attack because of the arrests of his handlers.  

 

There was a separate probe into his Mosque and a group associated with it that included links to his accomplice/wife.  That investigation was called off because of civil rights etc. etc. etc.  

 

We should have been able to fully uncover the 2012 plot based on his affiliations with a known terrorist and at the very least he should have been on the no fly list and any application made from a country like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan for a k-1 visa should have either been denied outright or treated as a potential link to terror and been scrutinized beyond the general course of business.  

 

The point is not that Trump's proposal offends Muslims per se, but that it is used as a recruiting tool for jihadists. If you have doubts, check today's news.

 

I have intimate knowledge of the K1 visa process, and I assure you there's nothing abracadabra about it, and it cannot be completed online. Surely you don't think downloading the documents instead of going to a consulate and picking them up facilitated a terror attack.

 

You stated that Farook was investigated.

 

Quote:Syed farook was the target of a terror investigation in 2012.

 

That is simply not true. His ties to jihadists were only revealed after his cohort during that period was arrested and cooperated with the feds. Farook himself was not investigated.

 

Clearly, these two slipped through the cracks. I have no problem with tightening up the screening process. A blanket ban based on religion goes against everything upon which this country was founded, and when it doesn't work, and it won't because the biggest threat is domestically radicalized jihadists, it won't be long before someone tries to take it further.

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