Quote:I think this thread is kind of interesting. For the last 7 Years liberals have gotten just about everything that they could have ever dreamed of. We don't have a thread about the altruistic utopia that we are living in now, so they have to resort to this kind of stuff.





Traditional marriage isn't a conservative idea. Traditional Marriage has been the position of every president ever elected to office. It has so much Bipartisan support that even in blue states like California it couldn't be over turned through the democratic process.


1.) If you support Gay Marriage fine, but don't throw the totality of human history at the feat of conservatives to try and label them homophobic.


2.) Eric, this wasn't about getting the government out of anyone's life. It was about proliferating the idea that the government can sell indulgences, and grant the power to those who oppose traditional institutions to, in some cases, force them out of business.

No you are using government to protect government interest. I support ending all government interference in unions between consenting adults, at the same time I oppose ALL anti-discrinamtion laws. If two men want to get married, if ten women want to marry one man, if a women wants to get paid for sex none of that is governments business so long all the parties are consenting adults of legal age. At the same time if a baker or church or privately owned anything says we don't want to serve gays, pologomist, whites, blacks, women whatever again that's between them and their customer base.


What conservatives want is government to enforce their perceived morals, I want government to get the hell out of the morality business along with everything else. [BLEEP] I don't even want government building roads!


Edit: for the record not supporting government oversight isnt the same as supporting a lifestyle. I think prostitution is disgusting and find it morrally reprehensible but that doesnt mean I need to empower the state to snuff it out or make laws about what peole can pay for and can't. Besides how long has prostitution been illegal, did we end it yet? Does prohibition of anything ever work? All prohibition does is incrementally strip you of liberty and empower the state. Consider me the anti-state

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