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Obamacare is a mess
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Quote:Yeah you guys seem to pay way more than everyone else for healthcare that isn't achieving good outcomes. Probably because people avoid seeing the doctor due to costs. As flsprtsgod pointed out, the pre-ACA system you are using as an example of what "you guys seem to pay" is far from a free market system. Medical costs in the US were heavily government controlled long before ACA. Back before the government got involved in medicine, medical care in the US was inexpensive and much more responsive to the needs of the patient. Heck, we even had doctors coming to patients homes. Even today look at the price vs. time curve of un-insured medical care such as laser eye surgery or cosmetic surgery vs. insurance-controlled or government-controlled medical costs. And make no mistake, the insurance companies are 100% in bed with government. The ACA is a manifestation of that; it is mostly an expansion of the government-insurance partnership. And if you push for single-payer (i.e. tax-funded) medical care, the US already has that in the Veterans Administration. You might want to look to see how well the US government ran health care in that case. "Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?" |
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Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-14-2016, 02:30 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by TJBender - 01-14-2016, 02:45 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-14-2016, 02:52 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-14-2016, 02:58 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-14-2016, 02:59 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by TJBender - 01-14-2016, 03:05 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-14-2016, 03:09 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-14-2016, 03:10 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-14-2016, 03:13 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-14-2016, 03:15 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by The Eleventh Doctor - 01-14-2016, 03:16 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-14-2016, 03:17 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-14-2016, 03:19 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-14-2016, 03:22 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by TJBender - 01-14-2016, 03:28 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-14-2016, 03:29 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by The Eleventh Doctor - 01-14-2016, 03:34 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-14-2016, 03:49 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-14-2016, 04:08 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-14-2016, 04:11 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-14-2016, 04:17 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by MalabarJag - 01-14-2016, 04:18 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by The Eleventh Doctor - 01-14-2016, 04:21 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-14-2016, 04:24 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by MalabarJag - 01-14-2016, 04:29 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-14-2016, 04:41 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-14-2016, 04:48 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by TJBender - 01-14-2016, 04:57 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-14-2016, 04:59 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by TJBender - 01-14-2016, 05:01 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-14-2016, 05:05 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-14-2016, 05:21 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-14-2016, 05:28 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-14-2016, 05:34 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by EricC85 - 01-14-2016, 05:37 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by jagibelieve - 01-14-2016, 05:38 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by EricC85 - 01-14-2016, 05:43 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by jagibelieve - 01-14-2016, 06:06 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by TJBender - 01-14-2016, 06:21 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-14-2016, 06:26 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by WingerDinger - 01-14-2016, 06:29 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-14-2016, 06:30 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by WingerDinger - 01-14-2016, 06:31 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-14-2016, 07:16 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by WingerDinger - 01-14-2016, 07:18 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by TJBender - 01-14-2016, 07:33 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-14-2016, 08:48 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-14-2016, 08:52 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-14-2016, 09:24 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by EricC85 - 01-14-2016, 10:37 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by TJBender - 01-14-2016, 11:47 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-15-2016, 12:38 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by MalabarJag - 01-15-2016, 01:07 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-15-2016, 08:56 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by jtmoney - 01-15-2016, 09:42 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by EricC85 - 01-15-2016, 09:48 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by flsprtsgod - 01-15-2016, 09:51 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by flsprtsgod - 01-15-2016, 09:53 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by flsprtsgod - 01-15-2016, 09:54 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by badger - 01-15-2016, 10:29 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by TJBender - 01-15-2016, 11:15 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by rollerjag - 01-15-2016, 11:45 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-15-2016, 04:53 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by FBT - 01-15-2016, 05:15 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Ringo - 01-15-2016, 05:50 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by MalabarJag - 01-16-2016, 04:57 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-19-2016, 08:28 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-19-2016, 08:51 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-19-2016, 09:09 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by EricC85 - 01-19-2016, 09:30 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-19-2016, 09:46 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-19-2016, 10:24 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-19-2016, 10:57 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by EricC85 - 01-19-2016, 11:35 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-19-2016, 11:49 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by EricC85 - 01-20-2016, 06:05 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by flsprtsgod - 01-20-2016, 09:22 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by flsprtsgod - 01-20-2016, 09:23 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by flsprtsgod - 01-20-2016, 09:24 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by Solid Snake - 01-20-2016, 10:12 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by Solid Snake - 01-20-2016, 10:23 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by EricC85 - 01-20-2016, 09:56 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by rollerjag - 01-20-2016, 10:55 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by EricC85 - 01-20-2016, 11:02 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by rollerjag - 01-20-2016, 11:31 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-21-2016, 01:05 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by EricC85 - 01-21-2016, 07:53 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by Solid Snake - 01-21-2016, 08:42 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by Solid Snake - 01-21-2016, 08:44 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by EricC85 - 01-21-2016, 09:14 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-21-2016, 09:25 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by jj82284 - 01-21-2016, 09:33 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by flsprtsgod - 01-21-2016, 09:37 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by MalabarJag - 01-21-2016, 12:01 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by rocdee - 01-21-2016, 12:10 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Solid Snake - 01-21-2016, 12:12 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by The Eleventh Doctor - 01-21-2016, 12:18 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Solid Snake - 01-21-2016, 12:39 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by MalabarJag - 01-21-2016, 12:53 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by MalabarJag - 01-21-2016, 12:56 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by The Eleventh Doctor - 01-21-2016, 01:04 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by rollerjag - 01-21-2016, 07:25 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by rollerjag - 01-21-2016, 07:30 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by homebiscuit - 01-21-2016, 07:41 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by The Eleventh Doctor - 01-21-2016, 07:46 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-21-2016, 10:06 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-21-2016, 10:24 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by MalabarJag - 01-21-2016, 11:06 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by DewtheMathis - 01-22-2016, 03:32 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by jj82284 - 01-22-2016, 08:25 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-22-2016, 08:38 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by flsprtsgod - 01-22-2016, 09:37 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by flsprtsgod - 01-22-2016, 09:39 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-22-2016, 02:14 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by flsprtsgod - 01-22-2016, 02:25 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-22-2016, 02:35 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-22-2016, 02:47 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by flsprtsgod - 01-22-2016, 02:50 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by flsprtsgod - 01-22-2016, 02:51 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by rollerjag - 01-22-2016, 04:35 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-22-2016, 05:21 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by jj82284 - 01-22-2016, 05:43 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-22-2016, 06:54 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by TJBender - 01-22-2016, 06:58 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-22-2016, 07:06 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by TJBender - 01-22-2016, 07:19 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-22-2016, 07:32 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by flsprtsgod - 01-22-2016, 08:48 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by lastonealive - 01-22-2016, 09:07 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by MalabarJag - 01-22-2016, 09:09 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by flsprtsgod - 01-23-2016, 09:37 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by jj82284 - 01-23-2016, 03:01 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by TJBender - 01-23-2016, 03:53 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by jj82284 - 01-23-2016, 05:20 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by rollerjag - 01-23-2016, 05:39 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by jj82284 - 01-23-2016, 05:57 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by rollerjag - 01-23-2016, 08:05 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by jj82284 - 01-23-2016, 08:30 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Jags02 - 01-24-2016, 12:57 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by jj82284 - 01-24-2016, 08:22 AM
Obamacare is a mess - by The Eleventh Doctor - 01-24-2016, 12:11 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Solid Snake - 01-24-2016, 01:20 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by TJBender - 01-24-2016, 05:01 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by jj82284 - 01-24-2016, 10:09 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by The Eleventh Doctor - 01-24-2016, 11:20 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Solid Snake - 01-24-2016, 11:23 PM
Obamacare is a mess - by Solid Snake - 01-25-2016, 02:16 AM
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