Quote:There is no bleeding heart aspect to it at all.  There isn't any aspect of feeling sorry for the people on death row, and that is not a factor in any way.

 

I am talking about justification on the state aspect of it, as well as on an individual aspect.  It just isn't there.  

 

I doubt the standard has anything to do with the taking of "innocent" life either.

 

If you or anyone else is really, really confident of your government and those that it employs as the "administers" of justice can and do so in a reliable way,  then I believe you are turning a blind eye to the vast amount of people walking away from death row and/or wrongly convicted in other ways.  

 

Again, I am not even contemplating being a bleeding heart.  I just know, absolutely, that it is foolish to believe that any State can point to an infallible record of not covering up evidence, planting evidence, eliciting made up confessions or encouraging misidentifications, competent representation, etc..

  

I mean....there are people here apparently willing to kill this guy in this case without knowing whether he was even involved in the death or the child.

 

In addition, the Supreme Court, the very conservative Supreme Court, just found via an 8-1  decision that the procedure used here in Florida is unconstitutional and has been for some time.  

 

If you consider the impossibility of infallibility of the state added to the inequities of acquiring adequate defense depending on economic situations, how anyone can say killing a human being is fair escapes me..

 

There are no do overs if they get it wrong, and we know they get it wrong. Not often, but one executed innocent is one too many. I know we had a long debate on this months ago, but even if we cannot now prove an innocent man has been executed, we can't disprove it either. That alone should be enough to cause the state to stop killing people.

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