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Poll: Of the Republican Candidates Select your favorite.
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Jaguars.com Poll 29 Jan 2016

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Quote:First off, what makes you think Hillary would do any less than that list you presented?


 

Secondly, do you have a link to Rubio advocating "
warrantless detentions, searches and seizures"? I'm not big on Rubio, but I don't see him as any more supportive of such things than most of the other candidates. If he is, I'd really like to know about it. I'm opposed to those things too.

 

I think we have different views on what constitutes a totalitarian. I view Trump's support of Kelo and Sanders redistribution of wealth as more totalitarian than the NSA. With the NSA Big Brother may be watching, but in the other cases Big Brother is actively harming citizens.
Hillary's been forced left by Sanders, and I think (hope?) that would keep her honest. One of the few things that the far left, the far right and the center all agree on is that the government's constant violation of our privacy and dignity needs to stop. It's the slightly left and slightly right that seem to think that Big Brother is actually protecting us from anything.

 

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-w...49078.html

Gitmo is just a front for warrantless detentions, searches and seizures, but in terms of the rest of his views that compromise the Fourth Amendment, well:

https://www.conservativereview.com/comme...nstitution

 

I consider totalitarianism to be any form of government or governmental actions that are designed to undermine the rights of the governed in order to increase government power and control. The Patriot Act does just that. The NSA was designed to do that. Militarized police forces do that. Suspension of rights and detention without indictment or trial does that. You know which candidates that matter are on record as supporting all of those things? Marco Rubio and Donald Trump, and even Trump's comments could be attributed to political bluster.

 

Know which candidates that matter are flat-out opposed to it? Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders. I have my issues with both of them. Cruz wants to take us back to the 1950's culturally, and his views on foreign policy are...interesting...to say the least. Despite an early draw, I'm no fan of Sanders. I don't think his economic plans are necessarily totalitarian. I do think that his sometimes subtle, often not, efforts to control the actions of Americans indirectly by thought-policing us could be construed as such, even if he does tear down the NSA, make body cameras for police mandatory, hold officials in every branch of law enforcement (or "law enforcement", if you work for the TSA) to the Fourth Amendment and excessive force laws and burn the Patriot Act in the streets of DC. I also have serious problems with his stance on gun control, and while I agree that climate change/global warming/whatever is a serious concern for all of humanity, I think that trying to paint it as a national defense issue is ridiculous.

 

So, basically, if it does come down to Cruz vs. either Democratic candidate, Cruz gets my vote. If it comes down to Rubio vs. Sanders, it goes to Sanders. If it's Rubio vs. Clinton...time to break out TOR and a good VPN, use offshore mail servers and start paying for everything in cash.

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Jaguars.com Poll 29 Jan 2016 - by jagibelieve - 01-29-2016, 04:56 PM
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