Quote:This team for the most part has always been known for offense more than defense.  Nobody on our defense has had absolute stellar careers.  Rashean, Brackens, Stroud, Henderson, Hardy, Poz, Darius, etc etc were all very good, but none were known league wide like the guys put into the Pride at this point.  With that said, I still disagree with one of the members of the Pride, but that has been discussed in the past.

 

This also boils down with how inclusive do you want to make the Pride?  is it someone every 2, 3, 5, 10 years?  Is MJD worthy?  If so you have to keep pushing other guys back.  In my opinion this team hasn't won enough to keep filling up space around the stadium. 

 

We are setting a dangerous precedent if we are letting above average players into the Pride.  What if we become a consistently good team again and pipe dream, win a couple Super Bowls....how many of those guys will deserve to go in the Pride?  I think you need to develop some exclusivity.  If you're winning Super Bowls you are almost assured to have defensive players that will out perform many of the guys listed above.

You articulate some very important and sensible considerations for Pride induction.

 

However I disagree with your assessment about players not being known league wide.

 

As you know, for some time, the Pro Bowl balloting has been divided three ways, fans coaches and players.  If you assume Pro Bowl balloting is in some way reflective of league wide publicity/notoriety/fame, examining it may be instructive.

 

Mark Brunell went to three Pro Bowls during his Jaguars tenure.http://www.pro-football-reference.com/pl...unMa00.htm

 

Marcus Stroud also went  to three Pro Bowls.  http://www.pro-football-reference.com/pl...roMa01.htm

 

Adjusting for the fact QBs are generally more publicized than DTs, you could certainly argue Stroud got as much pub league wide as Brunell.

 

Also consider Brunell never made All Pro-which is considered more prestigious than making the Pro Bowl.  Meanwhile, Mathis DID make first team All Pro one year.

 

However, I submit that league wide publicity is not necessarily a good criteria the Jaguars should use to determine who should be inducted into the Pride.  I think importance to the Jaguars, big games, longevity, talent, and many other factors should go into it.

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