Quote:Your scenario may be correct, but lets think about this....you and I are arguing, and I start coming at you to punch you in the face.  Are you just going to stand there and let me punch you, or are you going to come at me and defend yourself? 

 

I think that is his point as far as speculation.  The girl may have wanted to fight her, but she may have also had no choice but to react and fight back.  Whenever I've been in a fight I've never once thrown the punch first, I've always reacted to it and my first reaction isn't to stand there or back up...its to go forward and throw back (It's been a LONG time since I've been in a fight....I'm too old for that stuff now)

 

To me, the line is drawn at "Fight" vs "Assault".

 

I've definitely seen a number of people who just immediately turtled and tried to not get beat up.  They obviously didn't "agree".

 

The moment you stand your ground, in my definition, you're agreeing to the encounter.  You many not have WANTED the encounter, but you've made the decision that you're going to be an active participant in it.

 

Also, considering as it continues, she eventually ends up on top of "New Chick" and is continuing to throw punches/slaps/etc, she's no longer defending herself, but actively attacking.

 

Not that there's anything wrong w/ that.  I'm w/ you... I'm too old for that stuff now... but when I was younger, sometimes you just had to fight it out.  Definitely been in a few of those, where afterwards everything's fine.. points were made, and the issue was squashed.

 

Ultimately, it's all semantics.  Neither of them appeared to actively attempt to "avoid" the confrontation.  "New Chick" may have thrown first, but "Baby Mama" seemed just fine that it came to blows (and frankly, got the better end of it lol).

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