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Kiss Jalen Ramsey goodbye

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(This post was last modified: 03-01-2016, 09:49 AM by Etdavis2006.)

Quote:Well, I view it differently.


By the defense flipping their DE to the opposite side, your dominant LT is now facing a DE that a good LT can block one-on-one. Meanwhile, you'll still need to account for the superstar DE because he's now matched up with your RT (which finding a RT who is a great pass blocker is tough). So as you said, you chip. Which means you're accounting him with two guys.


Now, if you have an above average to good LT going against a premier rusher? Well, you give him help and chip. If he flips to the right side, you give him help and chip. So either way, you're giving him help most of the time.


Like I said, the only time, IMO that a great LT will really see his full value shine is if the opposing team have two very good rushers that you'll have to help on both sides. In this instance, it will allow you to help only on one side and allow your elite LT to go one-on-one.


As for the FS, I already stated that scheme very much dictates the value of this position. For most teams running Cover 2/4 variations, obviously I wouldn't think they value it that high. But for a team like us running 3/1 even zero (might be wrong but I seem to recall the Seahawks going Cover 0 when they really wanted to be aggressive in their "prime sb years). And I don't think there's any question that pass rushers is high on the list, higher than both tackles/safety/corner (I already mentioned this on my previous post, but we're not debating pass rushers vs. safety anyway)


And as far as your "tell that to Brady and Newton", you seem to have missed my point about the Broncos being a perfect storm of pass rushers (from just about every front four position), rangy linebackers, and physical but fast corners (thus eliminating the quick passing game)


Tell that to Brady and Newton? Tell that to every single defense that those two shredded not named the Broncos. That Denver D were/are the exception to the rule...not the rule.
Yeah we just view it differently.


My whole premise is based on the idea that a FS needs other players playing well to be effective. There are always a way to reuce someones effectiveness but those primary 4 premium positions just don't require good play from others to have a huge effect on the game. On the other hand a FS needs good play at other spots on the field to be effective. Thats why i keep bringing up pass rush.



Im not comparing the two but im saying a FS needs it to be good. That why i challenge someone to name a dominant FS who doesnt have a pass rush in front of them. To me you cant be a premium position if you need other positions around you to be effective for you to be make an impact.



I will say in our scheme tho it is important because it features a FS. Nonetheless in a general football sense im just cant say a FS is more important than an LT.



But we can have a difference of opinions. Nothing wrong with that. Its what makes discussions like this great.
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Kiss Jalen Ramsey goodbye - by MoJo44 - 02-29-2016, 03:16 PM
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