Quote:You see and read what you want to see and read.

 

I'm not addressing whether or not they shoot, only that when they did (as he's driving toward the barricade) and after he puts his hand in his jacket, then it's justified. I'm not using the FBI's investigation. I'm telling you what justified use-of-force tells us.

 

At 5:28, he's still driving down the center of the double-yellow line. His foot touches the brake less than a second before they shoot. The people at the barricade only see him driving straight and without slowing down. THAT justified that shot. Even though he starts turning (slightly), he's still easily within striking distance of anyone on the left-side of the barricade. 

 

As for the shot immediately after exiting the vehicle, his left arm raises (while straightened) until its fully raised. Who raises their hands that way while also saying "shoot me!" Any reasonable person would immediately think he's raising a gun toward them. When its obvious that he's not shooting, they stop shooting as well.... well, until he puts his hands inside his jacket. He wanted to die and he got his wish.

 

Everything was justified. I'm indifferent with this issue. I understand both sides of the issue, but please continue to exaggerate and make it out to be that everyone that disagrees is pro-federal government lackeys. 

 

Slow motion video proves both hands were up: http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standof...s_und.html

 

They were firing at the vehicle before he exited, which is exactly WHY he exited (to keep fire away from other passengers) and he was targeted while his hands were up (see slow motion vid).  

 

Initially everybody was lead to believe he was "going for a gun" when he was shot, when in reality (as this video proves) he was being shot at already and hit by a bullet, then he reaches down probably because he was shot.  Not because he was reaching for a weapon.  The autopsy shows the spot where he was shot, and GO FIGURE that's where he reaches in the video during the infamous "he's going for a gun" incident.

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