Quote:Just to be clear, when people state socialism doesn't work what are you referring to? There are many countries in Europe doing just fine and have better health care and educational system than the US. Are we saying more socialist? Most are going to be a mix between socialism and capitalism. We already have socialism here in our country so are those who oppose socialism saying we need to get rid of public education, welfare, medicare and social security?

Yes especially at the federal level. Education and welfare can work as socialist programs but on smaller scales which is why it should be distributed and maintained at the state level. Medicare and social security should be abolished as they are not sustainable socialist programs at any level. What's the difference two programs (welfare and education) provide temporary assistance for a duration the other two (Medicare and social security) require more payers and less beneficiary's to support payments made for an unspecified duration.

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