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"Stealing" Elections

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Quote:I was recently looking at some data, and it brought up a thought that I can't quite grasp. Most of the talk on this forum is more focused on the republican side with the possibility of a brokered convention. The same goes for the news media and the "protesters" showing up at Trump campaign functions. Many of the "protesters" seem to be from the Bernie Sanders camp more than anywhere else. However, their anger seems to be a bit misdirected.


Hillary Clinton is ahead not because of the fact that she has the popular support, but because of the fact that the democrat establishment has a system in place that pretty much assures her <del>nomination</del> coronation when it comes to the primary.


Consider this. If it was not for the "super delegates" being given to Hillary, she would actually be losing to Sanders. <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016#Schedule_and_results_of_primaries_and_caucuses'>Take a look at the data</a>. As an example.

IOWA

Hillary wins by a slim margin with 49.9%
of the vote and is awarded 23 delegates.

Sanders is second with 49.6%
of the vote and is awarded 21 delegates.


That seems to be fair right? However, Hillary is also awarded 7 Unbound delegates (super delegates).


Total delegates awarded - Clinton 30 Sanders 21.

New Hampshire

Sanders wins in a pretty much blowout with 60.4%
of the vote and is awarded 15 delegates.

Hillary is second with a much lower 38.0%
of the vote and is awarded 9 delegates.


The distribution of delegates might seem to be fair at this point, but then Hillary is also awarded 6 Unbound (super) delegates.


Total delegates awarded - Clinton 15 Sanders 15


The list goes on and it's apparent that the democrat establishment is paving the way for the Hillary <del>nomination</del> coronation, yet the Bernie Sanders supporters are out "protesting" Donald Trump. In the examples above, they finish in a virtual tie in the first case, yet Hillary gets 7 more delegates than Sanders. In the second case, Sanders wins in a landslide, yet they both get the same number of delegates. If you go down the list and look at the results of each state so far, it's obvious that the democrat establishment is pretty much "stealing" the nomination.


So my question is, why aren't the resident liberals and Bernie Sanders supporters on this board even raising this issue? Why so much focus on the republican primary?


I've said as much in the Bernie Sanders for Prez thread. So there. Plus I mentioned it in the other thread. Bernie's greatest enemy right now is the DNC. They want to give the nom to Clinton and will do everything they can to make that happen. Including not covering him in the news, playing up the super delegate crap, etc etc.
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"Stealing" Elections - by jagibelieve - 03-22-2016, 03:41 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by The Real Marty - 03-22-2016, 04:21 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by oface5446 - 03-22-2016, 04:27 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by jagibelieve - 03-22-2016, 05:17 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by The Eleventh Doctor - 03-22-2016, 05:22 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by Kotite - 03-22-2016, 05:32 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by jagibelieve - 03-22-2016, 05:53 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by realtorpat - 03-22-2016, 06:00 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by oface5446 - 03-22-2016, 06:14 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by jagibelieve - 03-22-2016, 07:02 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by DewtheMathis - 03-22-2016, 10:47 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by NacD - 03-23-2016, 12:05 AM
"Stealing" Elections - by rollerjag - 03-23-2016, 10:02 AM
"Stealing" Elections - by realtorpat - 03-23-2016, 10:05 AM
"Stealing" Elections - by jagibelieve - 03-23-2016, 02:43 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by realtorpat - 03-23-2016, 02:48 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by jagibelieve - 03-23-2016, 03:08 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by oface5446 - 03-23-2016, 04:24 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by MalabarJag - 03-23-2016, 04:37 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by jagsbum - 03-30-2016, 07:59 AM
"Stealing" Elections - by jj82284 - 03-30-2016, 02:56 PM
"Stealing" Elections - by Indy2Jax - 03-30-2016, 05:16 PM



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