Quote:It's nice to have slogans. It's not helpful in a debate, but it's good to have a mantra that helps you get by.


Marxism is, at the end of the day, the government controlling the means of production.


If you don't want to have an adult conversation, and you just want to regurgitate the propaganda you've swallowed, just say so.


I'm all for understanding the truth. I long gave up this my team v your team mentality. It's done me well.


So it's easy for me to see the benefits and draw backs of each side.


So it does intrigue me when I hear analysis that seems to be completely partisan and not based on all the facts.


For instance, blaming the recession of 2008-2009 on the government is just not the entire truth. It makes for a great talking point for your team, but it does nothing to get to the truth.


To ignore the banks and their huge roll in this is just proving you are not here to have a discussion on finding what the truth is, but only to fight for your team. And that's fine, but a bit boring.