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The premise of your question implies all human choice is logical. <b> I would like to make sure I am following you correctly.  You may misquote me or describe an awful situation about something that "happened" and attach a hyperlink which to takes me to a story about something completely different...  BUT I WOULD BE BESIDE MYSELF WITH GRIEF IF I EVER thought something YOU said was not accurate.  --The premise of my question is not why someone chooses 'anything'.  Because this backpedaling response is framed as if my initial question to you was: "Why do humans choose things?" which could imply choosing anything from what house to buy, what shoes to wear or what pizza toppings to get.  It was not.  My question to you was</b>
"Why would someone choose to be transgender?" 


 

 

Without being too freudian, attention mostly. I appreciate you pretending you are even moderately well read on Freudian psychology.  Your track record of not being able to use the most basic level of reading comprehension is well documented on the eternal walls of this message board.  
All of that aside..  I asked "Why would someone choose to be transgender?"  and your answer was "attention mostly."   (ACCEPT MY HUMBLEST APOLOGIES IF I AM MISQUOTING YOU IN ANY WAY).


 

<b>An interesting response.  Let me take a moment to consider it.   </b>


 

Upon review of your given response, I regret to inform you that I do not accept that as a logical
reason why someone would choose to be transgender.  

 

<b>I will begin my list of reasons with the link below which I posted and you never clicked on (and won't now).  You won't read it even if I tell you all you need to do is scroll down to the video taken in first person from a transgender person being harassed and assaulted unprovoked while riding the subway.  </b>


 

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/trans...gs.gnCOoHA

 

<b>To expound upon this point, I would also like to share this link from Germany where two transgender people were stoned in the street by strangers.</b>


 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...rmany.html

 

<b>..and this transgender person attacked by 20 gay men?  It's not just straight people they need to be afraid of.  </b>


 

http://planettransgender.com/brazilian-t...pparently/

<b>All of these incidents are just the past 4 months.  This is the attention (mostly) you propose makes sense for a person to choose for themselves?  Getting harassed and beaten?</b>


 

<b>Or maybe when you say attention, you think transgender people are like drag queens like something you saw in a movie?  Is that how you think transgender people live?  </b>


 

<b>I have met no fewer than 9 Jacksonville residents who are transgender (one so convincing I swear you'd try to pick her up -- you'd fail at that too).  Not one of them looks like a drag queen for the record.  The simplest way I could describe them is they feel most comfortable dressing in clothes which aligns with the sex they were not biologically assigned at birth.  Other than that they are pretty normal (should you approach one in the real world, I promise they'll be more afraid of you than you are them).  </b>


 

<b>I have heard personal accounts from each of these people of the type of "attention" they get.  It does not sound like the desirable existence I would choose for myself (though given a choice between being transgender or being you, I would choose transgender EVERY time).  If you imagine walking around in "transgenderland" is like an episode of Glee. Sorry. </b>


 

Classic left. Get called out and caught redhanded and then complain about not getting the answer they want to irrelevant questions.  "<b>Why would anyone choose to be transgender?" is an irrelevant question for what we've been discussing for 20 some pages</b><b>?  Yup.   You're winning alright.</b>


 

Still waiting on munchausen by proxy.  What are you waiting on? I answered this.

 

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As i said, and as you proved, your question is based on the idea that human beings make decisions logically.  We know that not to be the case.  People commit suicide because they want attention, people are trapped in the cycle of choosing abusive partners that are abusive because they have a weak sense of self, masochistic tendancies, etc.  The most complex psychological puzzle is how and why we develop our sense of "SELF."  The one thing that we can be sure of on the whole of human history is that human choice is not inherently predicated on what is right, logical or even healthy.  

 

Moreover, I have stated repeatedly that the concept of choice and biological predisposition are not mutually exclusive.  I have sexual urges every time i see a woman with nice legs in a pair of high heels.  It's the way i am.  Going up to a woman and soliciting a date would be a choice, and a violation of the oath i made to my wife.  My natural urges do not make my ACTIONS and CHOICES right on their face.  

 

There are lots of men who don't achieve sexual arousal unless the person that they are with or fantasizing about is pre-pubescent.  does that mean that CHOOSING to ACT on those feelings excuses pedophilia?  What about men who can't achieve arousal or climax unless the woman that they are having intercourse with is being forced against her Will.  Marquis De Sade inspired entire lines of sexual thought based on that concept.  Does that make Rape okay?  Why don't we celebrate these PREDATORS trapped in human bodies?

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