Quote:So one set of people are mentally ill and the other are pioneers of high spirited virtue because of the pr campaign and pop culture?  

 

Also, for the purposes of the exercise, I'm not straight.  I have a strong predisposition to same sex attraction.  LESS FILLING  TASTES BETTER.  Two hot girls making out... man that's it for me brother.  But would bringing a third person into my relationship be HEALTHY?  no.  DO SOME PEOPLE CHOOSE TO ACT ON  THAT URGE?  yes.  As a result people have divorces, jealousy, they loose their entire families become estranged from their kids and loose tons of tons of money. 

 

As conscious beings we have the ability to reason.  That means that given any urge at any given time that we have the ability to undergo a cost risk analysis.  This manifests itself in the form of our actions.  We have proven time and time again that more often than not the emotional return on investment of fulfilling an inherent desire outweighs any perceived long term consequence.  This manifests itself in the form of self destructive behavior of all sorts.  

 

One thing you said did ring true, "You're not SPECIAL."  One of the most interesting things about our consciousness is the inherent need to set ourselves apart and be recognized as unique or as a member of a group that is unique and deserving of special attention or consideration.  This happens both at the conscious and the subconscious level.  Going to the very core of the disorder we are looking at individuals who at some point "consciously or subconsciously" made the decision that being a member of the opposite gender because it would bring them a greater sense of fulfillment, and the motivations can be myriad, but not necessarily fit any logical normative.  

 

Lastly, i believe and have for some time, that there is a difference between being trans gender and being genetically gender ambiguous.  If the base biological blue print never drew a line then its not really about identifying or defying social norms.

 

Enjoy..  

 

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I think this discussion has been going really swell..  I have answered every left field question you proposed.  I am a bit confused though..  you have been banging the drum for the argument of choice and ignored the biological explanation..  then you start throwing around genetic ambiguity...  If you could kindly respond to the questions I highlighted in red on my last post regarding XXY and XYY babies and why you reject the biological explanation it sure would make it easier for me to want to continue this dialogue.

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