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I can accept that in certain instances where male populations are low, female albatrosses mate with a male once, then form female/female relationships to care for an egg or small chick. I can accept that that is an environmental factor where there are not enough males to form the traditional male/female bond and due to that environment they adapted.


Let's apply this same environmental model to humans. It is estimated by 2020, there will be 30 million more men in China, then women. Is there even a minor spike in the number of male homosexuals reported there? Not that I have seen. Instead, the environmental factor means young men take more risks to try to achieve a higher status in life so they can attract a female (like breathing in that disgusting inner city air for starters). They also become more violent as their testosterone levels are heightened due to the constant competition for the attention and favor of females. And we are also seeing shocking copycat instances of single, young to middle-aged men senselessly attacking young children in schools as a way to exact revenge on an environment which they feel inadequate or incomplete living in as there are not nearly enough females to maintain a stable society.


I will not wholly reject the concept that a person could have some sort of environmental influences which may trigger homosexual behavior. But I do not find it as likely as the biological explanation I have repeatedly endorsed.

Ah welcome back.


I'm glad you agree. There are many instances of animals changing sexual behaviour,birthing patterns, and even gender based on outside factors. So using your example.


"But all animals (including humans) also have a small subset which is bisexual or exclusively homosexual. Can this not also be considered natural if it occurs so frequently across all manner of species? If not, why not? How do you explain it?"


So we can agree in animals,that not every animal is born homosexual,some change their sexuality/gender based on outside influence. Many animals (including humans) have small subsets of homosexuals,would it be realistic to say humans may be influenced by outside factors also?


Your really on your last legs when your comparing the birthing behaviour of albatross's to the Chinese. In every society in the world young men take risks to achieve a higher status in life,the Chinese are no different ,albeit with many people,also attracting a female has nothing to do with breathing in fumes in a city. What does anyone of this have to do with what we're talking about?


Interesting language,instead of saying you might accept,you said you will not wholly reject. You said earlier it was an "absolutely absurd" idea. I think when you consider the complex nature of sexaulity,human biology and society it would be far more likely to be a complex combination of factors rather than just one of them like you believe. Remember I'm not saying they choose this at all,I think that's one point we agree with.

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