Quote:1. Pete Carroll failed with the Patriots and Jets before succeeding in Seattle. <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/CarrPe0.htm'>http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/CarrPe0.htm</a>


2. Gruden has always won with vets, not rookies and first year guys. But even with his winning, he had some losing seasons as well. <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/GrudJo0.htm'>http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/GrudJo0.htm</a>


As for the rosters...here's his first winning team in Oakland <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/2000_roster.htm'>http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/2000_roster.htm</a>


Note the disparity in experience between Gruden's first winning team in Oakland and Bradley's first two teams here, especially at QB. The same holds true in Tampa.


3. Belicheck failed in Cleveland before succeeding in New England . In fact, he had five losing seasons in his first six years there before becoming the Pats coach. <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/BeliBi0.htm'>http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/BeliBi0.htm</a>


4. Madden won with some all time greats on his roster like Art Shell, Gene Upshaw, Fred Biletnikoff, Ted Hendricks, Jim Otto, Dave Dalby, Dave Casper, Willie Brown (all hall of famers) Here was his first team in Oakland-Just two seasons removed from appearing in Super Bowl II <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/1969_roster.htm'>http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/1969_roster.htm</a>


Here was his team that won Super Bowl XI. <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/1976_roster.htm'>http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/1976_roster.htm</a>


Do you really equate those teams with the ones that Bradley inherited? Seriously?


In light of the above, it's far from a given that any of the guys you mentioned would have won with the roster inherited by Bradley.


To answer your question...yes, by all means...continue.

You see the statement that was said was that their are no coaches that could have done a better job then Gus with the talent we have... And i disagree with that.. I believe their are coaches that would have done better.. Gruden could have one more games last year.. Pete Carrol could have won more games... Tony Dungy would have won more games coaching...


Stop trying to defend a coach when you have no evidence that he is a good coach..

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