Quote:Well there's alot of subtlety that's lost via this form of discussion. The tone seems overtly antagonistic at times when I read your posts.


1. The execution, or what they did, based on the policy was not reasonable. It was over reach. What I'm pointing out is that the policy was reasonable. The specific situation, based on the facts, was not. However, it is reasonable to have a policy that ensures tributary waterways are not compromised in order to ensure the public good I'd protected. That is reasonable, is it not?


2 the issue between the individual and the epa has been resolved. Additionally, the policy is also being scrutinized in federal court as well. The injustice that we all agree on is being corrected via the judicial system. That's a pretty good thing.


3 so you want a scape goat? That's also what the courts are for. I'm assuming that the individual is suing for damages? Also, if you've ever held a job I'm sure that some employee of the epa is getting a talking to. Whether that becomes public is another matter.


4 well, to me the absolute bitterness you sometimes espouse when discussing certain agencies in the government makes me question how much you care for our current system. I'll leave it there, for now

 

1.  I appreciate you finally admitting that there was nothing reasonable about what the EPA did to this man.  It is reasonable that there should be a policy in place to protect the environment.  I'm not against that at all.  However, what does some Washington bureaucrat know about raising cattle in Wyoming?  The federal government should not have any involvement when it comes to land or land use, that should be left up to the states.  The State of Wyoming had no problem with him building the stock pond, and issued him the proper permit(s) to do so.

 

2.  The issue was resolved because 1 person fought back against the imperial federal government (that's what this country is turning into).  However, the imperial federal government cost this man much of his livestock and livelihood.  Because he fought back against the imperial federal government he lost a lot.

 

3.  I wouldn't call it a "scape goat", I would call it finding the problem and rectifying the situation.  After destroying a family's life, I would hope that more is done than "someone getting a talking to".  I don't know if he has brought a lawsuit up to recover "damages", but even if he does and wins it, who pays for that?  That would be me and the other people that actually PAY taxes.

 

4.  I really care about our country, our government, our system, etc.  I spent nearly 10 years of my life defending it under an oath and another near 20 years doing so.  I do question and take offense when anyone questions my patriotism and/or love and respect for our Constitution.

 

My biggest fear is that I'm going to leave this life and this country to my grandson in worse shape than what I have lived through.

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