Quote:As long as there is a clear standard, I'm okay.   But we can't just allow the government to arbitrarily decide these things.  

 

Illegal aliens, fine.   Deport them.   But what about tourists?   And what if the crime is a speeding ticket?  Think of it this way: if you were on vacation in France, and you got a ticket for speeding, would you feel okay about being deported and barred from re-entering France?   What if they just don't like your looks, or they find out you voted for Trump, so they deport you, and tell you you can't come back?  

 

I just want to know a little more about who would be deported from the United States, why they would be deported, and so on.   There has to be some standard other than, foreigner who breaks the law, or, as you put it, any foreigner at all.   That allows the government too much discretion.  

 

Who decides these things?   What rules are there?   You can't just say, "there should be no restriction" on ANY government power.  

 

To answer your question, first of all I've been to France.  I certainly would never take a "vacation" there and they certainly don't need to deport me.  The only reason that I would ever go back to that country would be to pay my respects to the many U.S. service members that died on the beaches of Normandy... but that's a whole other topic.

 

The standard would be any non-U.S. person that breaks any law.  Article one of The Constitution pretty much grants that power.

 

Quote:Imagine the colossal waste of deporting Shahid Khan over a speeding ticket.

 

C'mon guys, deporting ANY permanent resident over ANY violation is pretty stupid.

 

And for all you guys that think the government has too much power, and have been railing against said power since the inception of this forum, why do you choose this moment to grant the Feds this discretion?

 

First of all, refer to my comment above as far as granting the power to the Federal Government.

 

Second, you must be realistic about it.  Shahid Khan became a citizen in 1991 so the law wouldn't apply to him.  Would somebody get deported because of a speeding ticket?  Probably not.  However, when the rules are tightened up, it makes some people think about what they are doing.

 

Quote:You must think America is an awful place if you don't think being deported is a punishment.

 

Ask yourself this. Why do you hate America?

 

Come on, I expect better than this from you.  If a foreigner is deported, then perhaps yes that might be considered "punishment" to them since they aren't U.S. citizens.  Don't give me this "you hate America" stuff.  I actually served my country and made some sacrifices for it.  What about you?

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