Quote:I don't pretend to have a J.D. from Harvard, so I'm not even going to pretend to know what you mean by that comment (along with the others which appear inside the body of my post - in the future, format it better for people of limited intelligence, like me, to understand). I keep my arguments simple and to the point. Point being, if you want to criminalize doctors providing abortions and women who will have to find other means to provide them, and who surely will (you mean abortions existed prior to 1973?! Ya don't say!),

 

The argument that you are making is the same argument that was made prior to 1973.  In other words, some women will try to self abort and as a result pose great risk to their own safety.  This lead to the argument for making abortion SAFE, but at the same time there was a concern that by legalizing the procedure that you would have an exponential increase in occurance so the argument was also made that it would be RARE.  SAFE BUT RARE.  In actual practice this has just fallen flat on its face.   since the passage of Roe V. Wade we are looking at some 40 million plus abortions...  that's over 1/8th of the population.  There is no conceivable model that would put the number of hanger incidents that high had Roe never been decided.  


 

then you have to come up with a framework to police the "crime". If the zygote, or embryo, or fully-fledged and functioning person, or whatever terms you want to describe them, is the main concern, then bless your heart and go the extra mile and address all ways the atrocity can be enacted, including condoms.

 

You keep intermingling contraception into the discussion.  Genetic material that is the direct result of cellular meiosis in sexual organisms is a wholly different biological entity that a gestating organism capable of cellular mitosis (the fundamental biological definition of life), or to make it simpler we aren't making the argument to micromanage sperm.  We're not talking about trying to micromanage every fertilization, we're simply advocating that in the calculus of medical decisions that the human life be recognized as such.  


 

It's up to those proposing it to actually come up with a system that works. So stop using big words and go do it. Or just take yourself down to Massachusetts Avenue and throw around more legal arguments. Don't matter to me.