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Eugene Monroe

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Quote:Joeckel was any elite tackle prospect. Many felt he was the best tackle prospect since Joe Thomas, sometimes players just dont pan out
 

The best OT prospect since Joe Thomas was passed over for Eric Fisher? Really? That's your position?


Joeckel was the consensus #1 overall pick that year, but he wasn't considered to be an elite LT.



 

Quote:Joeckel was a top ten level talent at the time he was drafted, just like Ramsey.

 

Both Joeckel and Ramsey were totally unproven as NFL players.

 

No false equivalency here.
 

The need factor is the false equivalency. Monroe was coming off a top-ten NFL LT season in 2012 when they drafted Joeckel. Drafting Ramsey made sense from a need perspective. 
Prince Amukamara is not a top 20 CB.

 

I might add that the dropoff from Joeckel to later picks in the first round was not nearly as steep as the dropoff from Ramsey (Bosa, Tunsil, Jack, Buckner, ... Elliot?) to later picks in round 1 this year. Look at the picks from #6 on, the only players rated among the elite players in the draft who were available later were Buckner and Tunsil, two positions where the Jags were overloaded with starters.


 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ye.../draft.htm

 

While in 2013 several of the later 1st round picks were mentioned as possible #1 overall picks before the draft.


 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ye.../draft.htm




                                                                          

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