Quote:So because all life is precious, you also advocate for universal health care, correct?


Your experience with miscarriage is your experience.


The loss of a potential baby being born and going through life is a difficult one.


How a family grieves over that potential is personal.


Still doesn't change the facts that it's a potential life in the eyes of our society, many metaphysical books, and our laws.


Also, you are the master of the bait and switch argument. I have spent many pages of this thread explaining that the loss of the potential life is devastating. But please, demonize me as a callous guy that just sees the fetus as a clump of tissue. I never said that, but you love to create your straw men to attack and make the target of vitriol.


How bout just trying to have a discussion without taking it so personally?

 

No, I don't advocate for universal healthcare.  That doesn't diminish life, but I know you need to grasp for any straw that will marginalize those who don't bow down and lick the boots of the pro death movement. 

 

It's not a "potential baby" but once again, marginalizing the innocent is really the only tactic you've got in the arsenal here.

 

Since dismissing a child as a potential baby is your best approach, riddle me this.  Why are there cases where the death of an unborn child by the hands of someone else lead to charges for that death?  Why would someone be charged with murder of a potential baby that has no humanity in your world?  Even the most liberal of states like California have laws on the books protecting the life of an unborn child (not a potential child) in the event of death by violent acts.  If you look at the laws on the books in the nearly 40 states that have them, they certainly afford "personhood" to unborn babies in these instances.

 

Truth hurts, huh?

 

I know, bringing personal experience and facts into a debate is the LAST thing someone like you wants to deal with. 

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