Quote:Yeah, dude, I hear ya. There are alot of arbitrary lines in law making.

What makes one thing a hate crime and not another. The whole thing with calling an attack, terrorist, or Islamic terrorism and that being the reason we are losing to Isis is absolutely absurd-- dare I say [BLEEP].

So I get that.

As with everything, a compromise seems the best fit. Nobody is totally happy, but no side is getting the absolute shaft either.

To me, saying life starts at conception is an absurd line. But as a reasonable human being, I also find 3 trimester abortions to be just soul shattering.

During the development that happens in a pregnancy, up until the 10th week or so, the embryo doesn't have a sex, doesn't have arms or fingers that have developed, is smaller than the size of a peanut, etc...

To me, it's a rational line of demarcation. I mean, yeah, if you believe that human life and the soul enters the zygote at conception, then 8-10 weeks is still a terrible idea. Well, I'm sorry if that's the case. But I think those people are in the minority of Americans.

Are you of the opinion that life begins at conception?

The baby has a gender at the moment of conception. So, to say otherwise is a false statement. You can try to rationalize it by using the technical terms, but that peanut you're fine with discarding has all of their genetic markers at conception. That's science and not opinion. Just because the parents don't know the gender right away doesn't mean it doesn't exist.


At conception, it is a human being regardless of viability. Life does indeed begin at conception, otherwise what is it? If it's not predetermined that it is a human being and not a tree, or a fish, or any other living entity.


You've never really answered the question about the laws on the books in nearly forty states regarding personhood other than to say the wording was poorly structured. That's a cop out response by someone trying to avoid the reality. You even tried to make it sound like some republican conspiracy, which it isn't based on the states involved. States have drawn arbitrary lines to get the legislation passed, but the bottom line is that they grant personhood to an unborn child. Tough to tap dance around that.

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