Quote:Like someone else already answered, I have. I've also participated in annual memorials for children list to miscarriage. You'd be hard pressed to get a single person to call them a fetus.


All life is precious and sacred, whether born or not. Not difficult to answer at all.


Suppose your spouse or significant other was pregnant, and during her pregnancy she was assaulted and the end result was losing the baby. I suppose you wouldn't care because in your world personhood hadn't been established, so nothing but a clump of cells was lost, right?

Sorry, but I don't recall mourning a potential son or daughter. There was no potential there. Especially after seeing the sonograms. The mourning was real, and the loss was devastating enough to where my wife gave up on having another child. We consider our daughter, the only child we were able to carry to birth a miracle.

Quote:No, I don't advocate for universal healthcare.  That doesn't diminish life, but I know you need to grasp for any straw that will marginalize those who don't bow down and lick the boots of the pro death movement. 

 

It's not a "potential baby" but once again, marginalizing the innocent is really the only tactic you've got in the arsenal here.

 

Since dismissing a child as a potential baby is your best approach, riddle me this.  Why are there cases where the death of an unborn child by the hands of someone else lead to charges for that death?  Why would someone be charged with murder of a potential baby that has no humanity in your world?  Even the most liberal of states like California have laws on the books protecting the life of an unborn child (not a potential child) in the event of death by violent acts.  If you look at the laws on the books in the nearly 40 states that have them, they certainly afford "personhood" to unborn babies in these instances.

 

Truth hurts, huh?

 

I know, bringing personal experience and facts into a debate is the LAST thing someone like you wants to deal with.