Quote:I think there are many government agencies that need oversight. I think a healthy distrust of bureaucracy is healthy. The beauty of our system, in theory, is that we are able to hold our government accountable. The problem I have is when that healthy distrust becomes a wish to dismantle the entire government because you distrust bureaucracy.


Let me start by saying I'm not turning around anything on anybody.


I was pointing out how absurd your comment was, by pointing out the reciprocal point. To paraphrase what you said...


You said something to the effect that carrying a gun would have made those pigs think twice about the injustice they were about to perpetrate. Did you not say this? Did I misunderstand your point?

 

I don't think I said that. I also don't want to dismantle the entire government, I want it to be smaller and less intrusive in the lives of ordinary people.

 

 

Quote:I don't believe in guns. But I'm also realistic that the 2nd amendment won't be overturned in my lifetime--if ever. Regulating guns, believe it or not, is something the vast majority of citizens are willing to discuss-- there is a compromise, but the nra and other organizations that want to maintain the gridlock stoke the unjustified fear that we are coming for your guns. WE AREN'T COMING FOR YOUR GUNS.


I think your post points out this fear. You try to justify your gun ownership by saying that a gun will protect you if the police decide one day to treat you the way a black person is treated by pigs. As we have seen over and over again, by the time you realize your civil liberties-and probably your life- are coming under attack it's too late.


Your gun isn't gonna save you from tyranny, not in this modern age.


Revolution in the modern world will follow Dr King's model of civil disobedience and organization. Not on George Washington's model of revolutionary war. The gap between the arsenal civilians have versus the arsenal the government has is far too wide.


Keep your guns, enjoy them. If they give you a false sense of security that you can protect yourself from governmental tranny, fine.


But know that your security behind your arsenal is an illusion.


However, if the stuff really hits the fan, websites like this one and others where citizens can organize and create change though protests, civil disobedience, and a unified voting block is the only way to turn things around.

 

If the stuff hits the fan you won't be getting a vote on the outcome; I, and those around me, will at least have a small say in the matter. Your thoughts on the matter are naive at best, endangering yourself at worst. This is a world of violence and it always will be so long as there is life. You can prepare for it or ignore it, but it will always be there.

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