Quote:While I ignored the fact that of course SWAT personnel will behave like the public is the enemy and they are an occupying force, this actually makes my argument.


When you train and equip the PD to like the military, they will treat the community like a war zone and the citizens like the enemy.


Of course, a disingenuous person would look at this as an isolated occurrence, the fact is that military like tactics are being used as standard operating procedure by regular "beat" cops.


When a cop, like the one in Miami, rolls up to a situation and takes a standoff position, he's been trained that way. He's looking at the call the way SWAT, or soldier, looks at it.


It's time to stop training out entire PD in this manner.


The SWAT unit training should be maybe 10-25% of your police force.


Otherwise, you've trained your entire PD as an army. The police are not an army.

 

Wow.  You are so far from knowledgeable on this subject.  I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything... But you really know very little about police and policing in general.  I don't think there is a department in the country that has 10% of its manpower as SWAT personnel.  I don't know how many SWAT members are in the JSO, but if I had to take a guess, I would say probably 50 officers out of 1600+ are SWAT.

 

That cop in Miami rolled up into a situation where the call was a man with a gun.  Does that sound familiar?  It should.  Just last week 3 officers were ambushed and killed and 3 more shot with the same exact call.  Maybe if they would have rolled up with a long arm there would be 0 dead cops.

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